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UFC Scared of Roy Jones Jr

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According to Michael Woods over at CBS Sports, Roy Jones Jr. had agreed to fight Anderson Silva in a MMA rules bout within the Octagon of the UFC:

Roy Jones, who enjoyed a long run as the best pound-for-pound boxer in the world in the 1990s, has issued a challenge to the best mixed martial artist in the world, Anderson Silva.

The 40-year-old Jones, who is coming off a win against game but faded vet Omar Sheika last month, is willing to battle the 34-year-old Silva in the UFC Octagon, adhering to regular UFC rules.

Interestingly enough, the story is actually true. CBS Sports contacted Dana White, and he had more than enough to say:


"That's a question you have to ask Dana White," Soares told us. "We'd love to fight Roy Jones. Anderson wants to challenge himself, he wants legendary fights."

So, how about it, Dana? Should fans of both disciplines get geared up for the crossover clash?

"You won't see a Silva versus Jones fight while Silva is under contract with me," White said Tuesday. "I don't want to say anything bad about Roy Jones, I like Roy Jones and was a fan of his, but he mattered like fifteen years ago. He's not anywhere near the best boxer in the world. He must've spent all his money."

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"I could do it, make it huge, make money, but I could have done a fight like this when we were bleeding money (in the early 2000s)," White said. "The fight would make some money, but it hurts MMA in the long term. We don't do that because we love the sport. That's a Pride or K-1 matchup. It's not what we do."

The only oddity I can see here is that Roy Jones Jr., a boxer who is well past his prime, actually wanted to step into the cage with Anderson Silva under MMA rules. While many fans would simply believe Silva would take Jones to the ground and pound him, I have no doubt that we would have seen a boxing display in the matchup without any possibility of a ground battle. Sort of like the Lytle-Davis "agreement".

i guess ufc has a lot too lose if silva goes out and tries to bang with junior and gets knocked the hell out...its not realll good for the sport.
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mma would have way more to lose than gain on that fight. well, white would anyway.
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Originally Posted by thekunk07 View Post
mma would have way more to lose than gain on that fight. well, white would anyway.

This. Dana White is full of shit. The publicity would be huge and UFC would gain a lot from this fight. Roy isn't hurting for money, he's just an egomaniac. I don't necessarily think Roy would win, but it would be an entertaining fight.
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MMA is a sport?

Huh. I missed that.
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This. Dana White is full of shit. The publicity would be huge and UFC would gain a lot from this fight. Roy isn't hurting for money, he's just an egomaniac. I don't necessarily think Roy would win, but it would be an entertaining fight.

No, it would be bad publicity. They are trying to avoid becoming a sideshow spectacle. This is a smart move on Dana's part.
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No, it would be bad publicity. They are trying to avoid becoming a sideshow spectacle. This is a smart move on Dana's part.
I agree. The Brock Lesnar move was a good one because of the demographic that Brock Lesnar caters to (working class, primarily white, males,) but I do not see how a fight between Anderson Silva and Roy Jones Jr. would benefit the UFC organization. I think that the likelihood of Roy Jones Jr. not training in Jiujitsu/Muy Thai/wrestling and winning against Anderson Silva would be remote at best. He is still a terrific boxer, but there are many elements of boxing that just don't translate into MMA (even the stand up part of it). Just for starters, bobbing and weaving are not really as useful when you stand a good chance of getting caught with a kick or a knee; the ring is very different from the cage, fighting from the clinch is very different in MMA than in boxing; the difference between 4 and 10 ounce gloves is astronomical; as is the difference between a 3 and a 5 minute round. I think that Roy Jones Jr.'s boxing is probably better than 99% of the boxing displayed by MMA fighters. But that is sort of like saying that the best triathlete is a middling marathon runner, which is to say that the observation is completely off-point. The same can be said of jiujitsu. Some of the best groundfighters in the world have made poor MMA fighters - weak jaw, complete lack of standup, no ability to shoot, etc...
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And even if Silva takes Roy Jones down and submits him, all the phag MMA haters will just say, "oh that's bullshit, he had to resort to that pussy take down rolling on the ground shit. he was too much of a pussy to stand and bang with Roy Jones and if Silva had stood with him he would've gotten knocked out." So for Silva and the UFC to gain in any way from this fight, Silva would have had to knocked him out on his feet (the haters would probably even disapprove of kicking), and that's where Silva would have been most vulnerable against Roy Jones, so what's the point?

I would have liked to see this fight just as a spectacle and a showcase of how MMA guys are better "fighters" than boxers, but other than that, there's no real benefit to it.
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I agree with Dana White. Jones has done nothing to deserve a fight with Silva, and the odds of him beating Silva in a fight under the Unified Rules of MMA are very, very slim. Nevertheless, if Jones were to land a big punch and put Silva out, all the know-nothings (i.e., most boxing sportswriters) would say, "See, boxing is superior to MMA" and "MMA isn't a real sport." Not much to gain, and a whole lot to lose.
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No, it would be bad publicity. They are trying to avoid becoming a sideshow spectacle. This is a smart move on Dana's part.

+1. This isn't a circus. If Roy Jones enters the sport, he should earn a title fight. His name isn't as big as it once was, and he's certainly not entitled to walk in and demand such a fight without working up the ranks.
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