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JoS. A. Bank - Quality/Contruction/Pricing Answers

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Originally Posted by mcmillin
Long story short - personally (speaking only of MY managerial style in MY store) I would adjust the customer's price to reflect the better current sale. (I have never had this occue, by the way.)

The Signature Gold and Platinum are very similar in construction. They both feature a lot of hand-work including pic stitching around the lapels, collar, and pockets and a Bemberg lining. In the Platinum you will get better quality wool on the outside and higher quality interior materials used in the chest pieces of the coat. Joseph, Signature, Signature Gold, and Signature Platinum are all able to have working buttonholes added, too.


1. Are you sure that the pic stitching really hand done? You find pic stitching on really inexpensive suits, Zara for example, that is completely machine done. I would find it very anomalous for a retail $795 suit that is on perma-sale to have such significant hand work.

2. Does the Platinum, then, have a canvas front?
 

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Originally Posted by tripp
mcmillin,
what size JAB jacket do you recommend to a customer that measures 42" across the chest and 47" overarm? One often reads to size up if his overarm measurement is more than 7" greater than chest. Is there a point one should size down? Would one be more likely to size down to get the right fit in a JAB suit? (I'm 5'-10".)

thx again


Our tailored clothing is pretty right-on as far as sizing vs measurements. I would start you in a 42R, and see how it fits. I don't think you could size down - if you have a 42" chest, you're going to start in a 42 jacket. That being said, you can always try a 41 and/or 43, too, if the 42 isn't the right one for you.
 

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Originally Posted by spectre
Why don't you ship to Australia any more? I have worn your cashmere/wool trousers for a long time but now can't get them unless I ask favours from my American friends, which I am loathe to do. I would have thought in these times and with globalisation you would be expanding markets like all other companies, not contracting them.

I wasn't aware that we ever did ship overseas...or that we stopped. Sorry. We are still expanding in the US, but I don't see us going outside the country.
 

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Originally Posted by polar-lemon
1. Are you sure that the pic stitching really hand done? You find pic stitching on really inexpensive suits, Zara for example, that is completely machine done. I would find it very anomalous for a retail $795 suit that is on perma-sale to have such significant hand work. 2. Does the Platinum, then, have a canvas front?
1. The Signature Gold and Platinum ($1095+) are the ones with the pic stitching, actually - not on the Signature ($795), and every piece of product knowledge literature I have seen on those lines says it is hand-work. 2. I'll have to check into it...but from what I remember the Signature Platinum has a 1/2 canvas chest piece. (If that isn't correct, I'll be sure to get back to you!) ***Sorry! Full canvas chest piece...***
 

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lets talk slacks. I need some new slacks for summer and fall. what;s the pricing/styling run??
 

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Originally Posted by mcmillin
I wasn't aware that we ever did ship overseas...or that we stopped. Sorry. We are still expanding in the US, but I don't see us going outside the country.

I've bought things on line for years and had them shipped to Australia without any problems until they suddenly stopped without explanation six months ago.
 

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I always get Joseph A. Bank and Joseph Abboud mixed up! Not that it really matters mind you, since they both suck.
 

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Originally Posted by dirk diggler
lets talk slacks. I need some new slacks for summer and fall. what;s the pricing/styling run??

We have 2 lines of trousers available in stores. Both lines are available in 10-12 solid colors in year-round wool gabardine along with several seasonal patterns. In the Signature you will find some seasonal, tropical weight fabrics, too. They have button-through pockets on the back and are half-lined to the knee. In the Signature you get a step up in fabric quality and they add a shirt-grip waistband. Pricing is between $145-195 for most choices.

Tailoring is available in all of our stores - or if you order them online you can specify cuffs or plain bottoms along with the finished outseam you would like. (I also recommend the permanent Traveler Crease...great to keep your trousers looking fresh throughout the day and between pressings.)
 

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For all asking about Signature Platinum, here is the official product description...

Description:
Made in Italy of super fine super 150's Italian fabric. Full canvas chest for added comfort, form and appearance. The lining is 100% Jacquard Bemberg, semi roped shoulder expression. Detailed pick stitching on the lapel, front edge flap, and welt edge. Side vented model with interior arm shields. Trouser is a 2 pleat model with a split v finish on the back center waist band for added comfort. Sleeves are constructed for the addition of working buttonholes. The Corozo nut buttons are dyed to match fabric.
 

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Originally Posted by mcmillin
For all asking about Signature Platinum, here is the official product description... Description: Made in Italy of super fine super 150's Italian fabric. Full canvas chest for added comfort, form and appearance. The lining is 100% Jacquard Bemberg, semi roped shoulder expression. Detailed pick stitching on the lapel, front edge flap, and welt edge. Side vented model with interior arm shields. Trouser is a 2 pleat model with a split v finish on the back center waist band for added comfort. Sleeves are constructed for the addition of working buttonholes. The Corozo nut buttons are dyed to match fabric.
Can you tell me: do they come with brace buttons?
 

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Originally Posted by Orsini
Can you tell me: do they come with brace buttons?

Our new models being made now do not automatically come with brace buttons. It's gonna be a crapshoot whether yours does or not. Our tailors will always add them if you want them, though. (So many people don't use them - or even know what they are for.)
 

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Originally Posted by mcmillin
Our new models being made now do not automatically come with brace buttons. It's gonna be a crapshoot whether yours does or not. Our tailors will always add them if you want them, though. (So many people don't use them - or even know what they are for.)
Thank you.
 

TonyThe Tailor

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Originally Posted by mcmillin
Long story short - personally (speaking only of MY managerial style in MY store) I would adjust the customer's price to reflect the better current sale. (I have never had this occue, by the way.)

The Signature Gold and Platinum are very similar in construction. They both feature a lot of hand-work including pic stitching around the lapels, collar, and pockets and a Bemberg lining. In the Platinum you will get better quality wool on the outside and higher quality interior materials used in the chest pieces of the coat. Joseph, Signature, Signature Gold, and Signature Platinum are all able to have working buttonholes added, too.


To correct you, that is not "handwork", that is machine work performed by am AMF machine. As my father used to say, "these are sanitary suits: untouched by human hands!"

As per pricing, look at JOSB p&L statement. If one is selling at 70% off and your gross margin is 67%, then obviously the garments are WAY overpriced. Typical Gross margin (sales minus COGS) in the men's clothing business is around 46 to 49% after a typical year.
 

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Originally Posted by mcmillin
Honestly, I don't own any of our Exec shirts. I am surprised they shrank that much - that seems pretty excessive - and I haven't had any of my clients have the same experience. When you take them to the cleaners are they dry cleaned or laundered and pressed?


I have them laundered and pressed. The store manager said it's the starch that causes shrinkgage. I'll try no starch and see what happens. I don't really notice much difference without starch anyway. Thanks.
 

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