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Help the overpacker!

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I'm getting set for my annual three-week European sojourn, and this time, I'm determined to pack as lightly as possible. I'll be staying with friends in Vienna and Budapest, so laundry's not going to be a problem. I'm a classic overpacker, often about a third of what I pack never gets worn. Can I get some words of wisdom from fellow travelers on their favorite pieces to pack? Is there that one top you wear 2, 3, or 4 times while abroad? I've got a few ideas (most of my wardrobe is black and grey, I tend to blend in), but I just wanted to hear a few insights. I'm not lugging anything anymore. Thanks.
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Aside from weather considerations, the main thing IMHO is to maximize the "connectedness" of all the items in your suitcase - that is to take things that can be worn together as much as possible. Anyway - don't listen to me. I have the same problems as you, except when I go on buessness trips as they are much easier. B
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I'm getting set for my annual three-week European sojourn, and this time, I'm determined to pack as lightly as possible. I'll be staying with friends in Vienna and Budapest, so laundry's not going to be a problem. I'm a classic overpacker, often about a third of what I pack never gets worn. Can I get some words of wisdom from fellow travelers on their favorite pieces to pack? Is there that one top you wear 2, 3, or 4 times while abroad? I've got a few ideas (most of my wardrobe is black and grey, I tend to blend in), but I just wanted to hear a few insights. I'm not lugging anything anymore. Thanks.
I'm an "overpacker", too, although everything I pack does seem to get worn. Some things I'd recommend: -Take just two jumpers, one grey and one camel. It'll never be warm enough in Mitteleuropa to not wear a jumper. -Err on the side of formality in your coat choice, but make sure the coat is either grey or camel. A blue coat looks dumb with black clothing, and a black coat likewise looks bad over blue. -Take at the VERY LEAST a good sportcoat if you're going to Wien. A suit is, of course, better. It's a very formal city, and while one does see tourist jackasses in the Staatsoper and Musikverein in cargo pants, they are thought of as precisely that. -For clubbing, don't take anything. Just hit Zara (in Gerngross on Mariahilferstr. and standalone at Stefansplatz) the day before. If you're into more couture stuff, go to emis (Tuchlaben) instead. (Keep in mind they close for lunch.) In other recommendations, Halle in the Kunsthalle Wien (U2-Museumsquartier) is a pretty hip lunch spot, and if you're hungry but short of cash one of the Centimeter restuarants will be good to you. Also, don't leave Vienna without having eaten a Kaesekrainer Hot-Dog... Peace, JG PS: Where are you staying in Vienna? (Which Bezirk?)
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I'm staying in the 4th, near Karlsplatz station. There's a large market not far from there. This will be my first time in Vienna, so I don't have a lot of info. I was kind of looking forward to navigating my way there from the airport, but my friends are picking me up at the airport. Thanks for the advice on where to shop for clubwear, we will definitely be enjoying the nightlife. I think I'll being a suit or two as well. Is the 4th district nice? I want an unbiased opinion...
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cristobal and Joe G: I also plan on visiting Vienna soon on a weekend excursion while studying abroad in Italy. Let me know how it goes and what things shouldn't be missed (clubs, shops, restaurants, ect...).
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I'm staying in the 4th, near Karlsplatz station. There's a large market not far from there. This will be my first time in Vienna, so I don't have a lot of info. I was kind of looking forward to navigating my way there from the airport, but my friends are picking me up at the airport. Thanks for the advice on where to shop for clubwear, we will definitely be enjoying the nightlife. I think I'll being a suit or two as well. Is the 4th district nice? I want an unbiased opinion...
I don't know the 4th too well, except for the Naschmarkt, which is an "ethnic" food market that also adds a huge (and interesting) flea market on Saturdays. The Naschmarkt (not to be confused with the restaurant of the same name) is the best place to get a fast lunch in the city. That said, it's sandwiched between the 1st, or inner city (where most of the good shopping is) and the 3rd, which is a boring, solidly upper-middle-class district. (My fiance's parents used to live in the third.) Of course, I lived (by choice) in the massively unfashionable "socialist workers" 10th Bezirk instead of the 1st (most fashionable) or the 19th (where all of the diplomats live, as well as the wealthiest Wiener). So take anything I say about any Bezirk with a grain of salt. For things to do, Vienna has an amazing number of small but excellent art galleries. A fair number are concentrated on the Doratheen-Gasse (I think I spelled that wrong). Also, remember that the Staatsoper and Musikverein essentially give tickets way to students. (You can get standing-room seats to an opera or ballet for about US$3.00.) Vienna's best bars are in the Innenstadt (1. Bezirk). You should probably go to the Sky-Bar (on top of Steffl on Kaertnerstr.) even though it's very, as they say in Wien, chic-y/meek-y. (It's the kind of place the Hilton sisters go when they're in town, for instance.) I also quite like the Kruger Bar on Krugerstr. (Coming from the Staatsoper and going down Kaertnerstr. towards Stefanplatz, take the first right after the big Starbucks.) The dress code is civilised, the women are hot, and there are plenty of Cohibas and Montecristos all around. Speaking of Starbucks, don't go there. A real Viennese Melange at Hotel Sacher (...) across the way costs less than a tall Starbucks Latte, and actually tastes good, too. Demels is the other famous confectionary, the ones who used to do pastries for the Habsburgs. As for clubbings, etc., U4 and Titanic are probably still the two biggies, or Fun Factory if you're into jailbait. I really liked the club in the middle of the Stadtpark, but I can't remember the name. I think it's Meierei, but don't quote me on that. My fiance's standing favourite is the Havana Club, which has no cover and is the place for Spanish/Latin dancing. There's also a pretty good "after work" club somewhere in the 1st (I know that helps) if you want to party from 8 till midnite but have to get up to go to work. There are also lots of privately-organised parties, and that's where most actually Wiener go. The listing at www.vienna.at/tools/programm covers pretty much all of the open ones. Having a ISIC student ID almost always reduces the cover at these parties, so remember to bring it if you have one. (If you don't, and you're a student, get one at any STA Travel.) One BIG difference between Viennese and American clubs is that one will often see extremely young girls all over the place in Vienna. Even the top places will tend to have rather too many 15 year old schoolgirls. The consolation is that a rather wonderful percentage of Vienna's female population is outstandingly beautiful.... Peace, JG PS: Just in case your friends change their minds, from Schwechat (the airport) it's really easy. Just get on the S-Bahn underneath the terminal, and it'll take you to Wien Mitte/Lansstr. That's the U3 U-bahn, and I'm guessing they live on either the U3 or U4.
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Joe G, Thank you so much for your help re things Vienna. I can't wait to get there. I definitely plan on checking out the stores you mentioned. From what my friends there tell me, it's a beautiful city, still worthy of the empire it once ruled. Traveling as much as I do for work, I really long for vacation travel. I can't wait to go. Thanks again.
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