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Today I just picked up a lovely "hybrid" formal jacket from RL Purple Label, which has a second smaller pocket just above the main one on the right side. Now I've seen some jackets and also overcoats with this, but have no clue to what it's called, or it's function (if there is/was one)? It seems to me that maybe it is an out-dated feature that some are bringing back? There are also some other strange things about the jacket. It is a three button with the most upper part of the collar being satin, though it is shaped like a tab with a button hole on the left side (so that you could stand the small collar up and button it across to the other side somewhat like a Nehru jacket, though it is more for detail than actual function) It also has satin that folds up at the cuffs about an inch, and curve off into a split. Finally it is also side vented. I feel it looks good enough to wear as a formal jacket (but if I'm mistaken it would help to let me know), yet would like to have more info on those mentioned details; history, names, and what not. Whatever any of you can provide is appreciated, thanks.
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I just picked up a 3 button navy pinstripe Paul Smith suit (such an amazing piece...) yesterday that has a pocket above the regular one as described here... It looks great, but I'm curious as to its purpose as well. Thanks for all replies. Your jacket sounds great. Cheers, Pete
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I've been noticing them pop up here and there on a growing basis recently. I first took notice of this pocket type on the camel overcoat of Turkish in the movie Snatch. I've still been noticing them semi-consistently in magazines, runway photos, and on tv; most recently Dion Sanders wears a jacket with one on a add for CBS football. Like I said I have the hunch this is something old that some are deciding to bring back on their jackets.
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Today I just picked up a lovely "hybrid" formal jacket from RL Purple Label, which has a second smaller pocket just above the main one on the right side. Now I've seen some jackets and also overcoats with this, but have no clue to what it's called, or it's function (if there is/was one)? It seems to me that maybe it is an out-dated feature that some are bringing back? There are also some other strange things about the jacket. It is a three button with the most upper part of the collar being satin, though it is shaped like a tab with a button hole on the left side (so that you could stand the small collar up and button it across to the other side somewhat like a Nehru jacket, though it is more for detail than actual function) It also has satin that folds up at the cuffs about an inch, and curve off into a split. Finally it is also side vented. I feel it looks good enough to wear as a formal jacket (but if I'm mistaken it would help to let me know), yet would like to have more info on those mentioned details; history, names, and what not. Whatever any of you can provide is appreciated, thanks.
It sounds like a really nice jacket, although I'd only call it formal if it came with trousers. Well, you could wear it to hip formal events, such as gallery openings or contemporary classical music concerts (that's why I bought RLPL's velvet morning coat this season), but I would put it away for ball season. The extra pocket is called a ticket pocket, and some would say that it classifies the jacket as being primarily for social, as opposed to business, events. It is a traditional feature of jackets made for after-hours wear by most trad Savile Row houses. (The big exception is Huntsman, which never has been one for letting one's hair down.) What I do find somewhat unusual about your jacket is that it combines a hunting collar (the tab on the left side of the collar) with side-vents. I've only seen the hunting collar combined with a centre vent, as in the camelhair riding jacket I picked up about a year ago from Salvatore Ferragamo. (Still just about my favourite jacket.) On most jackets, the button for the hunting collar is there, but only attached to the under-lining of the collar. So using it is not advisable. How many buttons are on the sleeves? In response to another post on this thread, Deion Sanders' jackets often have strange features. Last Sunday's had two breast patch pockets. Stylistically, they tend to be in the same range as his play for the Redskins in 2000: not that good by any objective standard, but loud and very expensive. The last time I was impressed with a Deion Sanders ensemble was at his Redskins signing press conference. That burgundy suit with gold buttons was a work of art. Peace, JG
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Ah yes the Ticket pocket, for back in the day whence gentlemen road trains I guess. I've heard of ticket pockets before, just obviously never had an idea of what they actually were. In answer to your question there is no buttons on the cuffs for the jacket is actually unfinished (I have yet to take it in to the tailors), but I know there are enough buttons for three, if not four per cuff. Its unfinished state may also explain the side vents, since they could be there to finalize the bottom to be more fitted to the waist? Though if this is so, I am still thinking of leaving them open. I am curious to what the number of cuff buttons seems to signify; also all buttons are covered in cloth to make them more formal. As should be evident I am very uninformed on all the rules, and do's & don'ts, of formal wear. I mainly picked the jacket up because it seemed funky while classy, and also versatile enough to form to many different styles of occasions. I would not wear it to a very serious black tie affair, like a wedding, though. If you know of any links to sites that explain the in's and out's of formal wear it would be much appreciated. Thanks. . .
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Ah yes the Ticket pocket, for back in the day whence gentlemen road trains I guess.
Actually, think of "ticket" more in terms of when guys went to the opera, ballet, or symphony regularly. Peace, JG
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Bingo, JG.
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You can find here in England, tweed jackets and overcoats embellished with a ticket pocket (even slanted with hacking pockets).
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