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post #1936 of 2048
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But don't tie yourself to a bike until you have tested them
In addition to the Synapse, you gotta also get on things like the Trek Domane, and Pinarello ROKH. The best bike is the one that fits you right.

Agreed on all this. Fit > all
post #1937 of 2048
Also, you should really just embrace the old man with no kids (or kids out of the house) image and get the pinarello...
post #1938 of 2048
I must admit...I have barely ridden my Focus in the past year since this:


The commuter bike has gotten some use, and the town bike gets used plenty (as does the city bike-share almost daily)...but I feel kind of bad whenever I see this bike sitting in the corner.
post #1939 of 2048
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Also, you should really just embrace the old man with no kids (or kids out of the house) image and get the pinarello...

3.8k? Brah, do you even know me? Synapse 105 Disc = 1.5k. I'm fine with a 105 groupset and aluminum with the new "suspension" for the seatpost. If, and that's an if, I get a bike in the fall I'll probably do no more than 1.5k a year miles on it so it's not like I need something like the Pinarello.

Edit: geez, how many groupsets does Shimano have now? I can remember when it was Shimano no-name, 105, Ultegra and Dura-ace.

And 11 gear cassettes? Wow.
Edited by Piobaire - 2/2/16 at 8:55am
post #1940 of 2048
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I must admit...I have barely ridden my Focus in the past year since this: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

The commuter bike has gotten some use, and the town bike gets used plenty (as does the city bike-share almost daily)...but I feel kind of bad whenever I see this bike sitting in the corner.

This is how I feel about my Bianchi Sempre Pro. It just hangs there from the ceiling. My steelie Bianchi gets the lions share of daily commuting use until I get the winter beater Motobecane up and running in a few days. Winter tires (Panaracer Gravel Kings, Fenders, new brake pads, clean and lube etc)
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Originally Posted by ridethecliche View Post

Yeah, I know which is why I said cleaned and not lubed. Which is why it shouldn't be used on chains as 'lube'. There's really not much in there too lube to begin with. Cables maybe, but it's not like there's lots of grease in the non sealed areas anyway.

Might trickle some in there, but don't think it's necessary. I just needed to get the gunked up stuff out and that worked fine.

There's a few spring and ratchet mechanisms in there you want to lube up every 6 months or so. I take a look, blow out any gunk with compressed air and a brush if needed, then a drop or two of lube while running it through the full range is plenty.

@HRoi satisfied.gif
Edited by whiteslashasian - 2/2/16 at 11:48am
post #1941 of 2048
Oh I bet you like to blow out dat gunk
post #1942 of 2048
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

What's the drawback of discs on a road bike other than a little weight and slower wheel changes?
The weight would be the killer for me. I'm 6 foot 2 and 87kg and no weight weenie but any stock bike running 105 will probably be north of 9kg and adding to that doesn't seem wise when good brakes and pads stop very well. I've run dura ace brakes and pads for ages now and never had any probs. I'd imagine the current 105 brakes are probably just as good as my 5 year old Dura Ace ones.

If I was getting a disc braked bike I'd just look at a cyclocross one that can be banged around a bit more and had a bit of fun with if it's wet.
post #1943 of 2048
So again, outside of weight...drawbacks? At 5'11" and 97kgs, with the intent for pretty laid back riding, I just can't see getting worked up over 150-200 grams.
post #1944 of 2048
My 105 parts are fine.

But I still miss my campy bits and/or wish I had sram bits instead.

But it is hard to really find fault in 105, and hard to justify duraace. Ultegra is a reasonable compromise...maybe.
post #1945 of 2048

It just feels like discs solve a problem that doesn't exist unless you're running weenie carbon rims. Kool stop salmon pads offer good enough protection to lock up the front wheel even in the wet.

 

It just doesn't seem necessary on the road.

post #1946 of 2048
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Originally Posted by Piobaire View Post

So again, outside of weight...drawbacks? At 5'11" and 97kgs, with the intent for pretty laid back riding, I just can't see getting worked up over 150-200 grams.

cost.

Priced out a few bikes earlier in the year: Orbea Avant M20 (full carbon, mostly Ultegra) and $2,299. Add discs and the price jumps to $3,199.

http://www.orbea.com/us-en/bicycles/avant-m20d/

http://www.orbea.com/us-en/bicycles/avant-m20/

(note: the M23 "downgrades" to mostly 105 and can probably be found in the $1,600 range. Would consider)


And also don't forget the added cost if you upgrade wheels (since that's usually the first upgrade). Most disc-ready wheels that I see are pretty fancy.
post #1947 of 2048
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

cost.

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And also don't forget the added cost if you upgrade wheels (since that's usually the first upgrade). Most disc-ready wheels that I see are pretty fancy.

That's a really good point. If I do go Synapse thought you have to take discs to get the 105 in aluminum so I guess that's going to be what determines for me. I don't want to go cheaper than 105.
post #1948 of 2048
i don't understand why aluminum + 105 + disc >> 105 + carbon + 105 brakes. Even the performance/weight/acceleration/feedback on my 12 year old intro-level Specialized carbon bike feels like an immense upgrade over my wife's 2014 Giant aluminum + 105.
post #1949 of 2048
About $900 is why.
post #1950 of 2048
wut? I just checked Specialized, Giant, and Orbea sites. All have bikes at full MSRP with carbon and 105 in the $1500-2K range, if not a tad above $2K. And note that's retail, which is rarely paid. Giant even has a carbon + 105 + disc model for $2100 full MSRP. Carbon is an actual and big upgrade, disc breaks are mostly just pretty and can stop good in the rain.
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