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post #1411 of 1781
Still think an internal gear hub would make globetrotter much happier in a commuter/shopping bike, unless it is completely flat where he lives. And there are plenty of options.
post #1412 of 1781
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I didn't say it was the cheapest, but I said talking to the very knowledgeable proprietor would probably be helpful (and he definitely sells bikes that cost much less than 1200). Honestly though, that is what those bikes cost. People think that the Batavus Old Dutch is a great deal at $750 and american retailers have had trouble keeping them in stock the last few years. The Velorbis and Abici stuff is more expensive but they are also fancy machines designed and built by cultures that ride bikes all the time in regular clothes and just expect them to keep working and working. Some premium is paid for them looking pretty
The linus stuff is much cheaper (and until recently was very hard to get in the US because they were selling faster than they could make them) but there honestly isn't much below that. You go much lower and you start dealing with crap...$400 isn't going to get you anything besides a mediocre hybrid from most big brands (with poorly functioning 27speed drivetrains and no chain guard or racks standard).
The used route can be tough for such a specific request since once you found a fitting bike, you'd still have to shell out on racks/baskets/and find a chain guard that works...full chaincases (like on a dutch bike) generally don't exist unless they are made for a specific bike since there are tons of sizing issues.
edit: didn't see zippy's chainguard. a bit ugly but would probably a lot of single speeds (44t in front is pretty common)

Just checked out the Linus stuff, looks interesting. The big brands do make some very nice commuter bikes but yeah you gotta pay quite a bit more than $400, but $750 and over is getting you into some pretty nice bikes.

I'd ride this, and if it had a nexus 7 or 8 it'd be a pretty wicked bike. You could probably get one for well under $750.
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post #1413 of 1781
thanks, guys, this is a good starting place. OTC, I'll call your guy. I'm in Amsterdam now and see exactly what I want for about 500 bucks, I have to think about buying and importing, too.
post #1414 of 1781
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Originally Posted by globetrotter View Post

thanks, guys, this is a good starting place. OTC, I'll call your guy. I'm in Amsterdam now and see exactly what I want for about 500 bucks, I have to think about buying and importing, too.

Oh, well you are definitely in the right place for that kind of bike then. Dunno about other import routes, but its not that hard to get a bike on a plane...most shops will pack it up for you in a spare bike box and some airlines can even be convinced to not charge extra for it (and if you do it right, you can probably avoid VAT on the purchase)

The well made dutch bikes all carry a premium by the time they make it to a US retailer.
post #1415 of 1781
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Originally Posted by NORE View Post

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Those deep v's look like baby Shamals smile.gif

Thanks man!

I'm actually pretty tempted to swap them over for a lighter, more modern, black wheelset. A Velocity x Phil Wood wheelset is a heavy wheelset...
post #1416 of 1781
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Originally Posted by Luddite View Post

Thanks man!
I'm actually pretty tempted to swap them over for a lighter, more modern, black wheelset. A Velocity x Phil Wood wheelset is a heavy wheelset...

I went with the Alex R450 non-machined/Formula wheelset from Ben's. Like $112 for the set. They're pretty light and very sturdy.

I used to ride Mavic Mach 2CD tubulars which were bombproof but slightly heavier.
post #1417 of 1781
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Originally Posted by NORE View Post

I went with the Alex R450 non-machined/Formula wheelset from Ben's. Like $112 for the set. They're pretty light and very sturdy.
I used to ride Mavic Mach 2CD tubulars which were bombproof but slightly heavier.

Those are pretty decent wheels for the price, I have a set on a bike. Only thing I would say is that those machine built wheels ship with too low of a spoke tension (they will have bent and stretched to fit the hub and now be a little low). If you put a little more tension into the spokes they will be great wheelset.

Also, when the bearings go bad, you can get some of the phil-wood specced bearings to replace them...pretty simple operation and I like the end result.

Only issues have been my rear wheel not always maintaining spoke tension and getting loose...and then when it gets loose is when you get broken spokes (since there starts to be more flex and movement)....but for such a cheap wheelset, I can afford a bag of spare spokes.
post #1418 of 1781
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Those are pretty decent wheels for the price, I have a set on a bike. Only thing I would say is that those machine built wheels ship with too low of a spoke tension (they will have bent and stretched to fit the hub and now be a little low). If you put a little more tension into the spokes they will be great wheelset.
Also, when the bearings go bad, you can get some of the phil-wood specced bearings to replace them...pretty simple operation and I like the end result.
Only issues have been my rear wheel not always maintaining spoke tension and getting loose...and then when it gets loose is when you get broken spokes (since there starts to be more flex and movement)....but for such a cheap wheelset, I can afford a bag of spare spokes.

The set I posted are hand built (at least they claim that) and my set shipped perfect. I'm 265lbs and still haven't bent them or broken a spoke.
post #1419 of 1781
I sincerely doubt that those are truly hand built. So little money plus the fact that those wheels in that configuration are exactly what comes from the distributor means that unless they have unpaid interns disassembling and reassembling the wheels...there is no way they are actually hand built from scratch. They have to be machine laced and then hand tensioned and hand trued.

The couple broken spokes I had are no big deal--I raced cross on them so its not like they were treated lightly (and the subsequent broken spokes were really a result of extra stresses caused by riding around for a long time with the first broken spoke just twisted back into the wheel and out of the way).
post #1420 of 1781
post ride, have to get a new rear tire as this one has worn through. currently on vittoria evo sc's, going to get veloflex arenbergs next with black sidewalls

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also got another jersey, i have the black jersey and bibs, so now I can mix the matching white jersey with black bibs

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post #1421 of 1781

what! no mountain bikers!? confused.gif

 

I did notice iangp has one in his garage though. wow.gif

 

does it get ridden!?

post #1422 of 1781
After much research and osmostic-learning from living in Boulder/Denver, I finally took the plunge on a cheap(ish) entry level road bike (Tomasso Imola carbon fork, ~$500) that I am excited to start riding. My dad is a biking nut as are many of my friends but I have yet to be bitten by the bug. However, living out here and being a ski fanatic, I figured it was time to "learn" how to bike (seriously...it might be that bad starting out). Anyways, just thought I'd post now and maybe keep a log of how I progress once the rubber hits the road.

I have all of August off and am really just aiming to build confidence and learn to respect the road.

Any advice on a reasonable "training (wheels)" schedule for the month? Note: I have no physical barriers. (Edit: other than gravity).
post #1423 of 1781
Decisions, decisions..... I'm torn!

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S5 Team with an Ultegra Di2 build vs. R5 VWD limited edition with SRAM Reds


Most people think the S5 is OOGLAY but I find it gorgeous...like F1 gorgeous... My LBS is giving me a great deal on an R5 VWD LTD and if I do get it, I'll be swapping out the Red's for the Shimano Di2 - reminds me of the paddle shifts on my Formula Mazda smile.gif

I drove both today for a good 15min. and funny enough, while the R5 is spectacular on white paper with all the upgraded parts - I still feel faster and at home with the S5. I felt it as soon as I took off on the parking lot and same feeling coming back to the dealership. Only difference between the 2 when I tested were the chainring sizes. 53/39 on S5 and 50/34 on R5. I'm used to pushing bigger gears on my track bike (49t going up 8% gradients) so that might be a big part of the 'feel'

I've already put a 20% transferrable down payment and will be doing another test ride with each on 5%-8% gradients to see how each climbs and descends.

As for now my gut goes with the S5. I do not think I can go wrong with either as I'm not at a high level of cycling to be able to tell such minute differences but the offer they are giving me on the R5 is superb....not to mention limited edition paint.... just not my type of color.

Aesthetics and feel go to the S5
Prestige and price over product goes to the R5
post #1424 of 1781
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Originally Posted by dustinmyself View Post

what! no mountain bikers!? confused.gif

I did notice iangp has one in his garage though. wow.gif

does it get ridden!?

Not the type of crazy trail riding as you would think. Very tame shog[1].gif
I got it for $30 at a yard sale and it's fixed on one gear.... the rear derailleur is seized and the front shifts to only 2 of 3 rings. Some elbow grease could get it working but I've been riding my road bikes more often. Though my friends tell me there are some crazy trails my way - might be down for that later this fall. I'm just training to finish a century above noob pace for now lol8[1].gif
post #1425 of 1781
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Originally Posted by ianGP View Post

S5 vs R5 (Click to show)
Decisions, decisions..... I'm torn!
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3a3baa82.jpg
6f199ec5.jpg
b0d216b8.jpg
S5 Team with an Ultegra Di2 build vs. R5 VWD limited edition with SRAM Reds
Most people think the S5 is OOGLAY but I find it gorgeous...like F1 gorgeous... My LBS is giving me a great deal on an R5 VWD LTD and if I do get it, I'll be swapping out the Red's for the Shimano Di2 - reminds me of the paddle shifts on my Formula Mazda smile.gif
I drove both today for a good 15min. and funny enough, while the R5 is spectacular on white paper with all the upgraded parts - I still feel faster and at home with the S5. I felt it as soon as I took off on the parking lot and same feeling coming back to the dealership. Only difference between the 2 when I tested were the chainring sizes. 53/39 on S5 and 50/34 on R5. I'm used to pushing bigger gears on my track bike (49t going up 8% gradients) so that might be a big part of the 'feel'
I've already put a 20% transferrable down payment and will be doing another test ride with each on 5%-8% gradients to see how each climbs and descends.
As for now my gut goes with the S5. I do not think I can go wrong with either as I'm not at a high level of cycling to be able to tell such minute differences but the offer they are giving me on the R5 is superb....not to mention limited edition paint.... just not my type of color.
Aesthetics and feel go to the S5
Prestige and price over product goes to the R5


Really hard to go wrong with these choices, but for my money (and I own an R3), the R5 is the way to go. Better all round bike, and those upgrades will be bling. S5 is cool tech, but I just can't get over the "ugly stepchild of a road bike and tt bike" look... As you state you can get over the looks, obviously ymmv, but that is my $.02. A longer ride with hills will also help you definitively decide. Oh, and not to be a total dick, but as you state in another post that you are only trying to finish a century above "noob pace", you are way over equipping yourself and will be good (ie no excuses) either way wink.gif
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