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post #1306 of 1817
OK I've decided to shelve the brand new 5-600 bike idea and am looking at used bikes on craigslist. I've located two nice vintage road bikes (still open to hybrids but coming across a lot of road bikes which doesn't bother me). They look great from the photos and the frame size are within my range 19-21 inches (19 would be about perfect). What are general questions to ask about a bike before going out to take a look at it? What about when I finally go to look at a bike what do I look out for? When checking out new bikes I focused on fit and comfort, but with used bikes with older or recently replaced parts not sure beyond comfort and fit what to consider.
post #1307 of 1817
Hey Joffrey -

Your biggest problem is rust, possibly worn chainrings, maybe bent cranks...tires, inner tubes, brake pads likely will need to be replaced, but those can be had for cheap.

Bikes from the 70's and whatnot are pretty damn solid; there really isn't all that much to look out for that wouldn't be common sense. Hubs, bottom bracket and headset may need to be overhauled, but such chores aren't all that big of a deal.

In terms of what to consider in terms other than comfort and fit - consider whether you want to ride the bike or not; there isn't a perfect bike for anything really. When I have a suspension fork on my mountain bike, I find I wish it was rigid; however, when I don't have the suspension, I wish I did!

Hope this all helps

-ben
post #1308 of 1817
here is what you want from an old bike:

Alloy rims (steel rims are AWFUL and only get used on Walmart bikes these days if ever...but they were pretty common back then)
Alloy 3-piece crank--this is more of an indicator of quality than it is that you will notice a difference vs a 1piece or cottered crankset. If they are from a time when they used cottered cranks and they have a 3-piece, they were probably a decent bike. 1-piece crank like on a kids bike is always bad.

the other parts of course can matter but its hard to know without riding it or knowing a lot about parts from that era. Basically if it has those two things, fits you well, and rides nice, it will be a good bike.
post #1309 of 1817
^yup.

Something like this: http://louisville.craigslist.org/bik/3072213091.html

which really can had at a better price; something like that will last forever.
post #1310 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Biscotti View Post

^yup.
Something like this: http://louisville.craigslist.org/bik/3072213091.html
which really can had at a better price; something like that will last forever.

Lol, I looked at that craigslist and I was like hey, that's almost cheap.

Then I realized it was a 62cm (pretty big so limited marketability) and in Louisville.
That's an excellent bike. I personally don't have an issue reaching down to down-tube shifters (and half the people buying bikes rarely change gears anyways).

Another key indicator to frame quality (which would usually imply good parts if they are original) is forged dropouts. It is sort of hard to explain but I figure an SFer might be able to tell the difference between forged and stamped steel.
Basically the back corner of the frame where the wheel attaches should be forged on a nicer frame but stamped out of sheet metal on a cheaper frame...you can usually tell quickly by looking at whether or not the edges are smooth and whether the little screw holes for racks/fenders are thicker than the rest of the dropout (ditto for a thicker section of steel right where the wheel goes)

here, this is what a forged one might look like:
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and here is a stamped one (see how the eyelet for the rack/fenders is just the same plate of steel that has been pounded out):
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the dropouts shouldn't be a dealbreaker (I have 2 bikes that were built from frames with stamped dropouts and they work just as well as any other bike...its just a quick indicator of quality that helps you mentally sort them out...if it *has* them, its a good frame, but the converse isn't necessarily true).
The steel (chrome) rims should be a dealbreaker though...unless you plan to buy new wheels. The chrome is super slippery when wet so now your bike is heavy in the WORST place (rotating weight) and it will have trouble stopping in the rain.
post #1311 of 1817
Thanks a lot for the answers! Just for giggles, what do you think about these two bikes? At first glance I think they're worth an email to the sellers.

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/3058437981.html

http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/3003832103.html

BAsed on size I think the 2nd one would fit me better (plus its nearby) but the 2nd one has fenders and a rack already. Anyway just asking
post #1312 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

From the links under FSA Gossamer Pro Compact MegaExo this site The FSA Gossamer MegaExo has no link to a manual just says to post questions at the right. I'd post a question if I were you.

I did. No response yet.

I also called a shop yesterday and was put on hold for so long I gave up. I'll try another today.


Yes, that looks like it. And the installation manuals all give you the force to use but... well. Like I said, mine's smooth on the inside.

b
post #1313 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Joffrey View Post

Thanks a lot for the answers! Just for giggles, what do you think about these two bikes? At first glance I think they're worth an email to the sellers.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/3058437981.html
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/3003832103.html
BAsed on size I think the 2nd one would fit me better (plus its nearby) but the 2nd one has fenders and a rack already. Anyway just asking

I think I might go for the first one. Neither has terribly fancy components since they both seem to be original. But the wheels have been trued, it got a tune-up, it has rack and fenders. Looks good. Plus, since it's all the way out in Germantown you can offer him $150 and he should be happy. smile.gif

edit: assuming it fits. That matters more than anything.


b
post #1314 of 1817
wanted to share my first road bike that I bought... bought it off craigslist for $450, Rossin with Dura Ace. I still haven't ridden it yet as it's at my parents house in Florida, I plan to restore it, at least re-paint the frame. I'll go with a brighter red and probably a white head tube and seat tube. Like the bike below... I'd like to do classic yet slightly modernized build as the one below, some nice wheels. I've also just started taking a certification course at the local velodrome, week two is coming up this Thursday, very challenging and kind of cool. Don't know if I'll really get into it, but I wanted to try it. I may just end up buying a mountain bike to hit the local trails as that may interest me more.

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This is the paint scheme I'll probably go with
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post #1315 of 1817
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Originally Posted by Joffrey View Post

Thanks a lot for the answers! Just for giggles, what do you think about these two bikes? At first glance I think they're worth an email to the sellers.
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/3058437981.html
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/bik/3003832103.html
BAsed on size I think the 2nd one would fit me better (plus its nearby) but the 2nd one has fenders and a rack already. Anyway just asking

Second bike is better...first one appears to have chrome steel rims (hard to tell for sure from the photo) and it definitely has cottered cranks which makes it a lower end peugeot.

The trek is much newer...probably no older than late 80s...definitely has alloy rims and appears to have modern dual pivot brakes. having a triple crank up front is silly on a road bike but I suspect it is the better bike and probably weighs noticeably less.

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Originally Posted by danilo View Post

wanted to share my first road bike that I bought... bought it off craigslist for $450, Rossin with Dura Ace. I still haven't ridden it yet as it's at my parents house in Florida, I plan to restore it, at least re-paint the frame. I'll go with a brighter red and probably a white head tube and seat tube. Like the bike below... I'd like to do classic yet slightly modernized build as the one below, some nice wheels. I've also just started taking a certification course at the local velodrome, week two is coming up this Thursday, very challenging and kind of cool. Don't know if I'll really get into it, but I wanted to try it. I may just end up buying a mountain bike to hit the local trails as that may interest me more.
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This is the paint scheme I'll probably go with
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Why repaint? The old paint looks fine. If you aren't having a pro do it with either powdercoat or real auto paint, it is not worth it...spray paint will look great right away if you are really good at it, but it will be soft and get scratched fast on a bike (I speak from experience)
post #1316 of 1817
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Originally Posted by danilo View Post

wanted to share my first road bike that I bought... bought it off craigslist for $450, Rossin with Dura Ace. I still haven't ridden it yet as it's at my parents house in Florida, I plan to restore it, at least re-paint the frame. I'll go with a brighter red and probably a white head tube and seat tube. Like the bike below... I'd like to do classic yet slightly modernized build as the one below, some nice wheels. I've also just started taking a certification course at the local velodrome, week two is coming up this Thursday, very challenging and kind of cool. Don't know if I'll really get into it, but I wanted to try it. I may just end up buying a mountain bike to hit the local trails as that may interest me more.
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This is the paint scheme I'll probably go with
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Looks like a good bike for only $450. Pop a new saddle on there and you're good to go.
post #1317 of 1817
Already done. My pops gifted me a very slim, low profile Sella Italia with titanium frame.
post #1318 of 1817
New tires too.

To Joffrey: That Trek easily is the better bike compared to the ancient Peugot. Always go for downtube shifters over the stem shifters. Stem shifters were always the lesser bikes, heavy, cheaper parts, etc.

As otc said, the Peugot looks to have steel rims and will be heavy as all get out (26lbs+). The Trek is more modern, more solid components, will be lighter, and likely better sized. However that stem looks horrendous in the present configuration.
Edited by whiteslashasian - 6/12/12 at 2:59pm
post #1319 of 1817
yeah...that Trek is a nice looking bike, and will be so much better quality than a 600$ store bought bike.
post #1320 of 1817
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Why repaint? The old paint looks fine. If you aren't having a pro do it with either powdercoat or real auto paint, it is not worth it...spray paint will look great right away if you are really good at it, but it will be soft and get scratched fast on a bike (I speak from experience)
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The paint is not as good as it looks in the pictures. It's more scratched up etc. I will use real auto paint as I have friends that are auto-painters. My family in Puerto Rico has also always owned and been painters of auto-body shops, so it will get done right. It will be a much brighter italian/ferrari type red smile.gif it will look gorgeous.

And yes it will get new tires too... although I'm debating just switching the wheels off the bat as the bike is coming with some Mavic tubulars, not sure I want the expense and cons of tubular wheels/tires.

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