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post #1261 of 1829
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

I'd probably pay the extra $200 for the 1.5 to get Tiagra shifters/10 speed over the 1.2.
Trek US site has a CX bike (the Lane) listed for $1200. You're back to sora shifters though. Nice thing about a CX bike is you can just swap out tires if you want to ride on the road.

My wife has a 1.2, she's tiny so the bike is small but I'm pretty sure there is clearance for 32mm tires maybe 35s. It also has rack braise ons. The bike is a 5ish years old so new model might be different. It has Sora with a road triple up front which sucks for a road bike but loaded up with shopping and going up hills she gets into the small ring. Better option would be compact but I doubt you can get that with Sora.
post #1262 of 1829
Went to different bike stores today and stopped in a smallish store where they seemed to know their stuff.

They were Trek dealers and were selling the 1.5 at the same price as the big box stores. I prefer buying from a small store. Help out small businesses.

Anyway, they offered to make a bike for me, which seems interesting. They had a high quality all aluminum frame that they can get in my size. He was selling it for about 400 bucks. In the end, with quality components, I'd probably save 300 bucks or so.

What do you think? Will the carbon fiber fork in the 1.5 make a difference? I hear carbon absorbs impact better than aluminum. I think it would be kind of nice to actually have them build a bike for me.

As an aside, the owner mentioned that he can get a fully carbon fiber frame for 1200 bucks for me. Interesting prospect...
post #1263 of 1829
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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

I'd probably pay the extra $200 for the 1.5 to get Tiagra shifters/10 speed over the 1.2.
Trek US site has a CX bike (the Lane) listed for $1200. You're back to sora shifters though. Nice thing about a CX bike is you can just swap out tires if you want to ride on the road.

My wife has a 1.2, she's tiny so the bike is small but I'm pretty sure there is clearance for 32mm tires maybe 35s. It also has rack braise ons. The bike is a 5ish years old so new model might be different. It has Sora with a road triple up front which sucks for a road bike but loaded up with shopping and going up hills she gets into the small ring. Better option would be compact but I doubt you can get that with Sora.

I don't think there's anything about Sora that would preclude you putting just about any compact crank on that you want.
You should just be able to adjust the limit screws and it should work with your triple shifters.
Now whether it's worth it to spend the money and effort is a different question.

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Originally Posted by musicguy View Post

Went to different bike stores today and stopped in a smallish store where they seemed to know their stuff.

They were Trek dealers and were selling the 1.5 at the same price as the big box stores. I prefer buying from a small store. Help out small businesses.

Anyway, they offered to make a bike for me, which seems interesting. They had a high quality all aluminum frame that they can get in my size. He was selling it for about 400 bucks. In the end, with quality components, I'd probably save 300 bucks or so.

What do you think? Will the carbon fiber fork in the 1.5 make a difference? I hear carbon absorbs impact better than aluminum. I think it would be kind of nice to actually have them build a bike for me.

As an aside, the owner mentioned that he can get a fully carbon fiber frame for 1200 bucks for me. Interesting prospect...

According to the specs on the Trek site, it looks like the 1.2 and 1.5 come with the same "carbon leg" fork.
You want a carbon fork. I know nothing about the fork that comes on that bike though.

At your price point, I'd stick with aluminum.
post #1264 of 1829
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

I don't think there's anything about Sora that would preclude you putting just about any compact crank on that you want.
You should just be able to adjust the limit screws and it should work with your triple shifters.
Now whether it's worth it to spend the money and effort is a different question.
According to the specs on the Trek site, it looks like the 1.2 and 1.5 come with the same "carbon leg" fork.
You want a carbon fork. I know nothing about the fork that comes on that bike though.
At your price point, I'd stick with aluminum.

Sure, but what I'm saying is I don't think you can get a compact crank stock with the bike. My wife is happy with the triple, good for shopping trips and she has another bike for longer rides.

As far as your point about carbon forks is concerned (not meaning to be rude or anything but) it's bollocks.
post #1265 of 1829
I would take the small risk and go with the aluminium frame your small local bike store has suggested. Aluminium should be more robust and resistant to misuse that a cheap carbon frame. I would have thought he could source a carbon fork for you as well if you want one.

Having him make up a bike will mean you can spend more on the parts that are important for you now and you can upgrade the rest later if you want.
post #1266 of 1829
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Originally Posted by culverwood View Post

I would take the small risk and go with the aluminium frame your small local bike store has suggested. Aluminium should be more robust and resistant to misuse that a cheap carbon frame. I would have thought he could source a carbon fork for you as well if you want one.
Having him make up a bike will mean you can spend more on the parts that are important for you now and you can upgrade the rest later if you want.

Good advice.
post #1267 of 1829
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Originally Posted by Fang66 View Post

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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

I don't think there's anything about Sora that would preclude you putting just about any compact crank on that you want.
You should just be able to adjust the limit screws and it should work with your triple shifters.
Now whether it's worth it to spend the money and effort is a different question.
According to the specs on the Trek site, it looks like the 1.2 and 1.5 come with the same "carbon leg" fork.
You want a carbon fork. I know nothing about the fork that comes on that bike though.
At your price point, I'd stick with aluminum.

Sure, but what I'm saying is I don't think you can get a compact crank stock with the bike. My wife is happy with the triple, good for shopping trips and she has another bike for longer rides.

As far as your point about carbon forks is concerned (not meaning to be rude or anything but) it's bollocks.

My mistake. I meant get a carbon fork but stick with an aluminum frame.

The current 1.2 comes with Sora and a compact crank.
post #1268 of 1829
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Originally Posted by zippyh View Post

My mistake. I meant get a carbon fork but stick with an aluminum frame.
The current 1.2 comes with Sora and a compact crank.

Cool
post #1269 of 1829
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Originally Posted by musicguy View Post

Went to different bike stores today and stopped in a smallish store where they seemed to know their stuff.
They were Trek dealers and were selling the 1.5 at the same price as the big box stores. I prefer buying from a small store. Help out small businesses.
Anyway, they offered to make a bike for me, which seems interesting. They had a high quality all aluminum frame that they can get in my size. He was selling it for about 400 bucks. In the end, with quality components, I'd probably save 300 bucks or so.
What do you think? Will the carbon fiber fork in the 1.5 make a difference? I hear carbon absorbs impact better than aluminum. I think it would be kind of nice to actually have them build a bike for me.
As an aside, the owner mentioned that he can get a fully carbon fiber frame for 1200 bucks for me. Interesting prospect...

I don't generally like aluminum bikes...but they can be ok.

Aluminum forks on the other hand, are absolutely terrible. You would be FAR better off with a cheap carbon fork with a steel steerer tube or a lightweight steel fork (cheap carbon forks often weigh the same as a light Tange fork). Aluminum forks do not dampen vibration and impact at ALL and give a very rough ride.

Luckily, aluminum forks are also incredibly rare since nobody wants them...it is entirely possible that they intend to build the bike with a steel/carbon fork.
post #1270 of 1829
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

I don't generally like aluminum bikes...but they can be ok.
Aluminum forks on the other hand, are absolutely terrible. You would be FAR better off with a cheap carbon fork with a steel steerer tube or a lightweight steel fork (cheap carbon forks often weigh the same as a light Tange fork). Aluminum forks do not dampen vibration and impact at ALL and give a very rough ride.
Luckily, aluminum forks are also incredibly rare since nobody wants them...it is entirely possible that they intend to build the bike with a steel/carbon fork.

My CAAD 8 is a ball tearer in the mountains (good thing) but I get more use out of my steel Pinarello.
post #1271 of 1829
Awesome, thanks for the advice guys. I'll ask him about getting a carbon fork. Should I ask for all the same components as the 1.5? I think it's pretty much all Tiagra and Bontrager.
post #1272 of 1829
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Originally Posted by musicguy View Post

Awesome, thanks for the advice guys. I'll ask him about getting a carbon fork. Should I ask for all the same components as the 1.5? I think it's pretty much all Tiagra and Bontrager.

Price out both SRAM Apex and Campy Veloce as well. Both are far better groups than Tiagra--I don't know how the pricing will work out down there though...exchange rates and international trade can be a funky beast. I've seen veloce builds around here for great deals and apex stuff is a bargain (although SRAM is based here so...there's lots of it around)
post #1273 of 1829
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Originally Posted by otc View Post

Price out both SRAM Apex and Campy Veloce as well. Both are far better groups than Tiagra--I don't know how the pricing will work out down there though...exchange rates and international trade can be a funky beast. I've seen veloce builds around here for great deals and apex stuff is a bargain (although SRAM is based here so...there's lots of it around)

If there is a significant price differential between Tiagra (which works fine) and another gruppo I'd be inclined to spend the money on wheels rather than the more expensive gruppo, Apex and Veloce may be better gruppos but I think "far better" is an exaggeration, they all shift the the cogs and rings, but the advice to shop around is good. I built up my Pinarello with Athena 11 when it first came out and the price was cheaper than 105 even though I live in Japan? (not that I'd put 105 on an old Pinarello frame).
post #1274 of 1829
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Originally Posted by musicguy View Post

Awesome, thanks for the advice guys. I'll ask him about getting a carbon fork. Should I ask for all the same components as the 1.5? I think it's pretty much all Tiagra and Bontrager.

Ask him what prices he can get components for then make the choice. As I said above I think wheel upgrades are much better bang for buck than component upgrades.
post #1275 of 1829
Sounds good. Sent a message to my guy and he responded back that he'll look into pricing, etc. Hoping to keep it under 1200 USD, preferrably under 1k if possible.

Any recommendations for wheels?

Sorry for all the questions, I feel like such a noob!
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