meh, if they're 9" i don't think i could deal with that. wonder what the regular are like. might just go for APCs. but if i'm spending that much, might as well go with ande whall. it's a slippery slope.
I don't know actual numbers, but I tried some Japan Slims on (proxy for a friend), I'm a true 30, and 30 fit pretty well, just a little bit tight off the shelf. I'd say the rise on the 30 was around 10", pretty much a mid-low rise.
I'd honestly recommend TTS, or 1 down at most (based on aforementioned proxy).
The rise on those looks way too low for comfort. The zipper is so short!
The Japan/selvage denim models are button fly.