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post #1 of 14
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Okay, this is kind of long but I need advice and I'm trying to give as much info as possible...

So, I started off about a year ago trying to gain muscle...I virtually had NONE. I was 5'6'' and about 135. I was eating clean and at a surplus and I ended up getting to about 150. This obviously wasn't ALL muscle, so I decided to start cutting...

In the past 3.5 months, I've gotten back down to 135, and I've done so while maintaining the exact same level of cardio and weight training (as to minimize muscle loss). I can tell that progress is being made (I still feel much more muscular than I was before I started working out, and I've definitely lost inches around the waist).

What I want to do now is take the next step to truly be able to make this a lifestyle I'll be able to maintain. After reading more about various workout routines, I feel that I may be working out a little too much: I do cardio 4 times a week for about 25 minutes each (9.0 mph on treadmill), and I lift 3 days a week [5X10 of the following: Bench, Squat (just started), bicep curl (machine), tricep pushdown (machine), shoulder press (machine), lat row (machine), leg press (machine), tricep pulldown (machine), fly (machine), and various ab machines.]

On days when I lift, I easily spend about an hour and a half in the weightroom. From what I'm reading on this forum, it seems like that may be too much...Currently, I'm not taking any days off from the gym. I would like to start taking a day off of cardio, and make it 3X cardio a week and 3X weights a week.

I'm not so much worried about easing up on the cardio a little bit (I assume an extra 300 or so calories burned won't effect me too much, and I've read that a day of rest is good), but I'm just wondering how I can make my weight training days more efficient. Is there a way I can do less, but more effective, work at the gym without going backwards on the progress I've already made? I really feel that an hour and a half is a little overboard, and I could be using my time more effectively.

Let me just stress that I don't want to make it "easier," just better and more realistic for long-term sustainability. I'm really worried that if I start spending less time in the weight room, I will start losing muscle along with the fat I'm currently losing...Any suggestions?
post #2 of 14
its not the time you spend in the weight room but how you spend it.
post #3 of 14
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Originally Posted by yaknowwho View Post
Let me just stress that I don't want to make it "easier," just better and more realistic for long-term sustainability. I'm really worried that if I start spending less time in the weight room, I will start losing muscle along with the fat I'm currently losing...Any suggestions?

Cut volume and stop worrying.
post #4 of 14
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Originally Posted by robertorex View Post
its not the time you spend in the weight room but how you spend it.

That's what I was thinking too, but do you have any suggestions of how I could spend my time better without losing any muscle/strength?
post #5 of 14
okay, to be a little bit more descriptive....

5 x 10 sets are too much, and a lot of those exercises aren't that efficient. You could get more "bang for your buck" by doing different exercises.

Go look at stronglifts.com for a good example of 5 x 5 program that you could benefit from. This closely mirrors Mark Rippetoe's "starting strength" which is basically considered a bible for those looking to gain muscle.
post #6 of 14
like why said, 5x10 is way too much volume. go to heavier weights and use less reps per set. Also, some may have different opinions but I would say cut out all machine work. no reason you should be doing exercises like bicep curls on a machine. get rid of the leg press, do deadlifts. do your shoulder press with a barbell. If you lift with gaining muscle size in mind, you may not always get results (the pump may make you think you're getting bigger when you're actually not adding muscle), but if you lift with getting stronger in mind, the muscle will follow.
post #7 of 14
Thread Starter 
Thanks so much for the help, guys, I'll definitely look into a more efficient 5X5 program...Just one more thing, I'm not really looking to bulk up right now, and I'm still eating at a deficit because I'm trying to burn some fat...

So, all other things equal, will switching my lifting program from the current one to a better 5X5 program help me maintain the muscle/strength I have, and allow me to continue burning fat and getting leaner? Basically, can I make a clean switch in my program without seeing any negative results (and hopefully some positive ones--like faster fat loss, bigger strength gains--as well)?

(I also don't want this switch to make me start gaining any weight right now, because I'm still eating close to maintenence trying to lose fat. That's why I don't want to do less work, just better work.)
post #8 of 14
gaining weight is a function of diet, not lifting.

If you continue to eat at a deficit, you will not gain weight, no matter how much you are lifting.

Additionally, stop worrying about being too bulky! My advice is to lift like a bodybuilder/power lifter. They're pro's at getting big, strong muscles. When you're happy with your size, stop. You're not going to roll out of the bed one morning, look at the mirror, and tell yourself, "omg, I'm TOO big!"

When you're happy with your results, stop. Until then, it makes the most sense to take the most efficient, quickest route to your goals. All of this low-weight, high-rep garbage just makes you take longer to reach your desired goals, and doesn't really improve your strength, only your endurance.
post #9 of 14
Cardio 4 times per week at 9mph for 25 minutes? That seems ridiculously intense.
post #10 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by unexpected View Post
gaining weight is a function of diet, not lifting.

If you continue to eat at a deficit, you will not gain weight, no matter how much you are lifting.

Additionally, stop worrying about being too bulky! My advice is to lift like a bodybuilder/power lifter. They're pro's at getting big, strong muscles. When you're happy with your size, stop. You're not going to roll out of the bed one morning, look at the mirror, and tell yourself, "omg, I'm TOO big!"

When you're happy with your results, stop. Until then, it makes the most sense to take the most efficient, quickest route to your goals. All of this low-weight, high-rep garbage just makes you take longer to reach your desired goals, and doesn't really improve your strength, only your endurance.

So you think switching to a 5X5 program would be the best idea?
post #11 of 14
yes. You'll be able to lift heavier too. Give it a try for a few weeks, see how you like it.
post #12 of 14
Thread Starter 
So I think I'm going to try the Madcow plan out (http://www.geocities.com/elitemadcow...inear_5x5.htm)...

I know I won't add any new muscle while eating at a deficit, but will this plan help me gain strength and maintain the muscle I've already gained?
post #13 of 14
yes.
post #14 of 14
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by unexpected View Post
yes.

Thanks for your help, again...I'm looking forward to this new plan!
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