I'm not talking about private label suits. THe suit you are considering, I imagine, is from Ebay, right? Even this suit will have been made for a store -- Belvest doesn't have its own retail stores, as far as I know. Your question would be akin to asking what the silhouette of a Hickey Freeman would be without informing us of the model. Belvest makes a lot of different models, and different stores will order different models. They still carry the Belvest black label, and only sometimes will include a store label as well.