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post #16 of 25
4/13/09 at 1:48pm
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It's called a burpee. Although they are quite excellent, I woulndn't do them by themselves. They would be part of a workout.

Should be a continuous motion too. I saw a couple of guys at the gym doing them, but they took a 3 second rest between each one. They were doing it slowly too.

I never do just that. I do them in a conditioning circuit. Anyway, I think that the pullup makes it something other than a burpee.
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post #17 of 25
4/13/09 at 3:44pm
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We had open mat today, and I sparred for about 2 hours, with about 15 minutes total in breaks. Also sparred with several guys with between 70 and 150 pounds on me. That ended 6 hours ago. I still feel dehydrated.

If you're not taking in some salt, I'd recommend you get some salty foody-type things into you. Pretzels, Chex Mix, what-have-you. You may know this already, but water alone - or even gatorade - won't do the trick. Only salty foods give me any bounce-back.

When I ran more races, the shorter races featured bananas and cookes at the end. The longer races (>10 miles) featured pretzels, chex mix, cokes, etc. etc. And the marathon had full breakfasts, the kind that would harden your arteries just to look at it: eggs, sausage, bacon, etc.
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post #18 of 25
4/13/09 at 3:53pm
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If you're not taking in some salt, I'd recommend you get some salty foody-type things into you. Pretzels, Chex Mix, what-have-you. You may know this already, but water alone - or even gatorade - won't do the trick. Only salty foods give me any bounce-back.

When I ran more races, the shorter races featured bananas and cookes at the end. The longer races (>10 miles) featured pretzels, chex mix, cokes, etc. etc. And the marathon had full breakfasts, the kind that would harden your arteries just to look at it: eggs, sausage, bacon, etc.

Well, it was Easter, so I had prime rib (and a big piece of crackling,) gravy, mashed potatoes, so I figure that I had more than my necessarily intake of salt.

I think that bananas are perfect after race food. In addition to being deliciously nutritious, they fill up and settle the stomach, which I've often felt to be a problem, especially if the race had been particularly grueling.
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post #19 of 25
4/13/09 at 4:11pm
Have any of you guys used a TRX suspension trainer? I would have thought it was a bit of a gimmick but did a workout on this yesterday with my personal trainer and it was intense.





Seems like great core training as well as every body part. Website is http://www.fitnessanywhere.com/
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post #20 of 25
4/14/09 at 12:41am
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I was doing no gi, and we were going pretty hard. (Some guys were doing gi bjj, but I prefer the no gi stuff, since it is more useful for MMA.) The trainer has a Gracie Barra background, so we do both.

Boxing is different. If you spar for too long, you will get seriously hurt because you are going to make a mistake, and you are sustaining too much impact. I've never done more than 10 rounds sparring in any one striking session either, and having done that many rounds in a session, I can honestly say that after 15-25 minutes (depending on the sport), I don't think that I could throw another substantive kick or punch (I could probably manage an elbow in the clinch), and that my defense at that point consists primarily of either clinching and holding on for dear life, or putting on earmuffs. In grappling, you don't run the same risk of injury, and the sessions are not as kinetic. As long as you stay hydrated, you are good to go. And a minute or two off the mat stand you in really good stead.

I know that there is always some stupid debate about what is tougher to do, MMA, BJJ, or boxing, and I would say that it's comparing apples to oranges to pears. IME, in MMA (there are sessions of grappling, striking, and a few variant combinations of the two), you probably get the best all around workout because you switch levels so much, and have to adapt to a variety of situations using a variety of muscles and skills. In gi BJJ or submission wrestling, you get core strength and conditioning to just go and go, and in boxing, you get crazy cardio. I guess that if I were to make an analogy to other sports, MMA is like doing a triathlon, BJJ is like running a marathon, and boxing is like sprinting. They are all strenuous, but not particularly comparable.

no i wasnt trying to get into that debate, i was wondering from a safety purpose. i thought you were striking as well. i know theres times where the coach wasnt there etc and i went much more then 10 rounds and you can really feel it after. how long do you usually go when you include strikes?
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post #21 of 25
4/14/09 at 2:24am
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no i wasnt trying to get into that debate, i was wondering from a safety purpose. i thought you were striking as well. i know theres times where the coach wasnt there etc and i went much more then 10 rounds and you can really feel it after. how long do you usually go when you include strikes?

Well, there is no really good place for striking around here, so I haven't been. But when I did, the length of sparring sessions depended on what was being practiced. Sometimes, you would go one minute with a new fresh guy every minute, no rest in between, usually for 5 minutes, before subbing out, and the next guy would take his turn. This would give you lots of looks and you got to really work on your focus and intensity. This could go on for 45 minutes or so, just subbing in and out. In other sessions, you essentially fought using K1 rules, so 5x3 minute rounds, with a minute in between each round. That was just good for endurance and also strategy. And in some sessions that were just trained to break you down, (often strikes with takedowns - so you'd be forced to switch levels to either takedown or to defend the takedown) you'd go ten minutes at a time. I think that those were probably the most intense sessions. I often felt like I was going to hurl after that. And then afterwards you'd nearly always feel euphoric. For those sessions you would wear the most body armor as well, because a broken rib is not good for anyone.
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post #22 of 25
4/14/09 at 2:25am
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Have any of you guys used a TRX suspension trainer? I would have thought it was a bit of a gimmick but did a workout on this yesterday with my personal trainer and it was intense.





Seems like great core training as well as every body part. Website is http://www.fitnessanywhere.com/

I've used that, but I never knew what it was called. Yeah, you can get some intense workouts with those.
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post #23 of 25
4/14/09 at 2:59am
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I was doing no gi, and we were going pretty hard. (Some guys were doing gi bjj, but I prefer the no gi stuff, since it is more useful for MMA.) The trainer has a Gracie Barra background, so we do both.

so how long have you been training in bjj and do you mind me asking what your belt rank is?
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post #24 of 25
4/14/09 at 3:27am
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so how long have you been training in bjj and do you mind me asking what your belt rank is?

Well, I trained for about 2 years in the early 2000's, transitioned to MMA, and got back to it just last year. So... I guess, nearly 3 years, if you count all the bits and pieces, and don't count the jiujitsu that I learned purely for MMA? If you do count the years I was training for MMA, I guess that I've been practicing some form of jiujitsu for about 5 years.

I was ready to test for my blue just before I left, but it will take some time to get back to that level. It sort of sucks. I'd hoped that I would be at an age that I can let go of some ego, but it still sort of sucks. I often find myself wishing that I'd tested when I was ready.

The guy I am training with is really strict about belt tests too. There are a few guys in there who are still white belts that have trained for 3 or four years and are pretty solid fighters. So I am pretty sure that I will be a white belt for a while.

How about you?
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post #25 of 25
4/14/09 at 9:09pm
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good stuff! i just recently joined so i'm basically about 3 months into bjj so i'm just looking to receive my first stripe!

its really random here when it comes to receiving stripes, as our assistant instructor seems to be giving them out at the drop of a hat but when it comes to formal belt promotions, i've yet to seen any or participate in the traditional backlashing with our belts.

when the weather starts to get hot here, we do no-gi bjj. sounds like fun.

good luck with your training! i've been getting some scratches on my face in addition to a nice bruise on my upper cheek, which is the only upsetting thing since i have to go into the office the next day to explain why i look so fucking beat up. not a good look in a corporate setting....
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