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I am beyond annoyed at this. I have asynchronous or whatever they call it cable internet. I have a SPI wired router behind it, with a 801g wireless router running WPA2 off the main wired router, which I switch on when I need it -- usually the three wired systems are sufficient. For whatever reason, my browser times out a lot. Sometimes I can't stream YouTube. Reasonably frequently (once/week, but sometimes a dozen times/day) the wired router loses its connection to the modem -- I can ping the router, but not the modem. Sometimes if I do a bandwidth speed test I have 900kbps, sometimes 300. Sometimes, the router's losing its connection to the modem is triggered by visiting a certain website, and this effect is repeatable for like a week, and then it goes away. Today, my router would lose the modem every single freaking time I asked Outlook to DL my mail. From any of three computers. Once that happened whenever I went into CE, for a week! And then just as mysteriously it stopped. My ISP is somehow tied into the MAC address of the system that was online when the connection was setup, as I have to clone it in the router. I am using non-standard router settings these days, but the problems recurred back when I was running defaults too. Any ideas? The intermittancy of things makes it really hard to nail down. ~H