Originally Posted by wttm
My point is, all a sudden people not liking pre washed denim because the internet/magazine said so is sad. I understand the fact that you want to wear darker denim for another aesthetics. It's like people all of a sudden only look for selvage denims when some non selvage is just as good quality but they don't care cause its not selvage or raw.
I get what you're saying but I'm not sure if you're looking at the bigger picture or even the entire story.
People can and usually do wear what they want. If a person buys into raw jeans because they've read that it's in style then clearly they're just looking for something fashionable and "new." More than likely these same people are just going to go to their nearest comfort store or brand for their pair and figure that it's all the same; I'd say it's rare that they'd do much more research than that. I doubt these people give a shit about quality. It's not necessarily sad, they're just trying to look as good as they can based on limited information and/or budgets.
But you're arguing more about the people on this forum that discriminate against anything that isn't raw selvage. I think you're severely generalizing if you think everyone here buys jeans with the same intentions. Sure, the newbie on the forum might be buying those APCs because people on the internet told him that his Diesels were trash and might go a few months down the road preferring to keep that point of view.
That's fine for "beginners" but what about the rest of us who aren't just in it for the looks but also the craftsmanship and details? Hell, there are a few on here that wear pre-distressed selvage
jeans, are they just as sad? What companies that don't offer raw selvage can you name that offer equal or superior to selvage quality denim and washes that don't completely suck? Seriously, I'd love to know. I'm not saying that selvage EQUALS quality but you can't argue that the brands people wear here (5EP, RRL, 45rpm, etc) don't offer the best denim on the planet.