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post #16 of 31
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Originally Posted by needler View Post
A clever secretary who'd worked for a half dozen plastic surgeons once observed to me that the trust and closeness of patients to the surgeons was directly proportional to how informally they dressed. Doing particularly badly were the young guys who loved $5000 suits and $200 ties and the very best was an older man who wore slacks and a turtleneck and used the informality to his advantage to increase the perception that he was a friend, not somebody selling you something. It's not surprising, there are plenty of studies showing tiny things like sitting down massively change people's subjective perception of what went on. Dressing well can send the wrong message sometimes. I don't think you can allow it to dictate what you wear, but I do consciously consider what message my clothing may convey.
Not for nothing, but i trust older doctors ALOT more then younger ones. No one wants to see doogie houser walk into the room when you're in the hospital, especially if you are in need or surgery. Not always true i'm sure, but just a mental thing. Between the best and worst doctors i've had, it had nothing to do with their clothes or age, but still i'm nervous about a young surgeon (i've had 3 lung operations) Honestly if you work at a place like Upenn and are a specialized surgeon, you can pull up in a Maserati wearing a kiton suit, and i could care less as long as you are the best, and vice versa.
post #17 of 31
Hermes ties are pretty recognizable, so whimiscal design or no, people will figure if you're spending $150+ on a tie (retail), you're not some jackass.
post #18 of 31
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people will figure if you're spending $150+ on a tie (retail), you're not some jackass.

I couldnt disagree more.
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post #20 of 31
Vineyard Vines. The execution is better.
post #21 of 31
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Originally Posted by Narciso View Post
The moral of that story is to dress appropriately. You don't want your doctor to treat you as if they were a business man, so they shouldn't dress like one when dealing with you.

I'm not a fan of fanciful ties unless I relate to them in some way. For example I sail, so I like wearing ties with sailboats on them.

i don't think doctors even know if that the name of the buttons on their cuff is called a "doctor's cuff".

and getting patient's blood on their best tie is just horrible.

doctors don't need to dress well, unless you're an admin. Maybe i watch too much House, M.D.
post #22 of 31
I think some of the Hermes ties work well for business, I have a couple of the interlcoking style. That said one of the VP's at our company wear one with lambs on it.
post #23 of 31
Hermes ties run in the family so I have my own and have inherited some from my father etc. I find the Hermes designs much more interesting; like vineyard vines ferragamo seems to just have one design printed repeatedly (ie, one 'character') whereas Hermes often has two.
Not a fan of anything that has an H or a horsebit on it, though; I think that if you buy Hermes you should look for something whimsical, not something that screams "Yes, this is an hermes tie" to the world at large.
Finally, some people impinge on the quality of Hermes ties. They are very soft and insubstantial. That having been said, to create a fuller knot I twist the hell out of the ties I have and they have withstood my/my father's greatest attempts to permanently wrinkle them for over thirty years. The point of the tie may fray over time, I can't tell you how many tie loops I've had replaced, but the tie itself is still wearable at 30 years and that has to say something.

EI

(And now to stir things up I'm going to say that I find a great deal of the Kiton/Zegna etc ties reminiscent of those that obnoxious european waiters wear (especially here in New York). Bold, thick, shiny, and tied like an English footballer's. Not for me.)
post #24 of 31
This thread calls for Lafont's expertise.
post #25 of 31
I avoid Hermes and Ferragamo ties partly because they strike me as TOO conservative and business-like. The little Aesop's fables frogs and foxes and snails etc. are very charming, well-rendered and becoming of high-class gear and all. But all too often, those intricacies are de facto centerpiece of an outfit that lacks imagination. A polite, riskless joke at a dull party.
post #26 of 31
I like the Hermes geometric ties too ( probably as much as the whimsicals ).

They are a little thin for my tastes these days, so I hardly wear them, but I like them.

I'm not particularly impressed with Hermes construction and substance. I have many ties that are obviously superior in construction. The Hermes silks and prints are very nice though.

The Ferragamo ties I have are more whimsical and I hardly ever wear them. They might be a tad below Hermes in substance, construction, and silk quality.
post #27 of 31
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Originally Posted by EuropeanInterloper Redux View Post
Hermes ties run in the family so I have my own and have inherited some from my father etc. I find the Hermes designs much more interesting; like vineyard vines ferragamo seems to just have one design printed repeatedly (ie, one 'character') whereas Hermes often has two.
Not a fan of anything that has an H or a horsebit on it, though; I think that if you buy Hermes you should look for something whimsical, not something that screams "Yes, this is an hermes tie" to the world at large.
Finally, some people impinge on the quality of Hermes ties. They are very soft and insubstantial. That having been said, to create a fuller knot I twist the hell out of the ties I have and they have withstood my/my father's greatest attempts to permanently wrinkle them for over thirty years. The point of the tie may fray over time, I can't tell you how many tie loops I've had replaced, but the tie itself is still wearable at 30 years and that has to say something.

EI

Thanks for saving me the effort of writing the exact same post, dude. Technically, they are somewhat too slim for most lapels, but I don't think that should really matter. They totally live up to their "conversational tie" billing, which saves me the effort of starting up chats

Some of their modern designs are interesting - while no sane person should have bought their "Manifeste" screenprint-on-PoW-print tie, I've found it goes over pretty well at parties
post #28 of 31

As a physician (I'm a female, but obviously my husband is a male) I can say that any doctor who wears Hermes ties to work is either a.) lying they are not a physician (doctors don't do this) b.) working in a Beverly Hills dermatology office.  or lastly c.) really douche-baggery.

Even the most conservative of medical specialties can get a bit messy at work.  For work related events, i.e. rep dinners, conferences, etc.  they are absolutely appropriate - but at the office, no. 

post #29 of 31
As a dedicated thrift store shopper I have picked up many Hermes, Ferragamo, Brioni, Zegna, Italo Ferretti, Stefano Ricci, etc. neckties. But I pay, on average, about $2.00 per tie. Many are new with tags attached. It's so much fun and I can afford to give them away to friends and people I work with.
post #30 of 31
I perfer Ferragamo, but this is coming from a guy that wheres a tie probably once a year...
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