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post #16 of 19
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Originally Posted by Toorman View Post
You would hope the guy selling suits would be knowledgeable it just isn't always the case. By being informed yourself you can quickly determine if the salesperson is knowledgeable and a useful source or clueless and to be avoided. Nonetheless, you were misled and I agree that it doesn't hurt to try and get a store credit. I was just warning not to toss the baby out with the bath water as it's still a good deal if the suits are nice and fit well. If you keep them find a good tailor and have them altered properly. A well fitted half canvassed suit will look much nicer than an ill fitting full canvassed suit.

Good points again. Now it's just a matter of determining the quality of a half canvas versus a full canvas suit by Hickey Freeman. From what I gather, the only difference posted on these boards is the canvassing, and if that's the case, I can certainly live with a half canvas suit since the look and feel will only be slightly different than a full canvas, correct?

If the difference is substantial then I might look elsewhere.
post #17 of 19
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I went home today and tried the pinch test on my 3 HF LTD suits. All of them have the same feel above the breast pocket and below the bottom button.

So my question is this: is it true that the fabric on the back should have the EXACT same feel as the fabric above the breast in a canvassed suit (assuming even a half canvas suit would have the canvas in that area of the suit)?

Because the back fabric is certainly thinner. And if so, how is it possible to have a similar feel on the back for a canvassed suit, given that the chest piece and free floating canvas in the front make the suit inherently "thicker" than the back?

I'm using the below link as a reference to the pinch test:

Sticky Post regarding canvas vs fused on this forum

Maybe I'm missing something?

Another point: the fabric below the bottom button is indeed a "thinner" feel than above the breast. So the real question is: how can i determine if there's a floating canvas at all, instead of a fused one? I'm hoping I can do this without needing to find a true canvassed suit to use as a reference, because I doubt my city sells anything higher end, period, than the HF ltd at Dillard's.
post #18 of 19
You're over thinking it. Are there three separate layers at the bottom? If so, full canvassed. If not, half (rub the lapels together and you will feel roughness, evidence of the hundreds of little stitches under the wool).
post #19 of 19
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You're over thinking it. Are there three separate layers at the bottom? If so, full canvassed. If not, half (rub the lapels together and you will feel roughness, evidence of the hundreds of little stitches under the wool).

I do feel some roughness in the lapels, but does that really prove that it's indeed "half canvas?"

Because it seems there's a construction style that only canvases the lapels, but leaves a fused chest piece .. and then there's the construction that has a free floating canvas up top on the chest, but not below the lower button (lapels may or may not be canvased).

This "pinch test" seems harder than I thought for sure.

Also, even if you can feel "three separate layers" anywhere in the suit, how can you tell the difference between the inner layer being fused or canvas?

In other words, if you pinch the outer layer from the outside, then the lining from the inside of the coat, pull them apart so you can feel a middle layer, how do you know that middle layer is fused or canvas?
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