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post #1 of 17
Thread Starter 
Curious question from a relative newb.

I have quite a few ties. Mostly from JAB, CT, a few cheap Nautica ties, and I recently purchased some from Jim Thorpe ties while in Bangkok.

1.)
For some odd reason, each of my ties tie very differently. The JAB and Nautica ties tie the best (I use a full Windsor). Why in the world can't I get the others to look good? Granted, I'm very anal about how my ties look, but there shouldn't be something wrong with that

The CT ties are much thicker (maybe it's a British thing?) so I have to tie them using a half Windsor which I don't especially like ... but even with a half Windsor the knot is almost too big.

2.)
Some of my ties are a bit wrinkled/twisted in the area around where the knot is tied. Also, some have a (noticeable) crease on the viewable portion of the tie when knotted from packing them in my suitcase. How can I get these creases/wrinkles out aside from dry cleaning the ties?

Thanks in advance as always, gents!
post #2 of 17
2: Next time you take a long hot shower, hang the ties in the bathroom (not under the shower off course), and let them be for some time. This should stretch the wrinkles and twists out. If it doesn't help, do it again. You could also flatten the ties under a folded tea-towel and do some gentle ironing. Some might say this is damaging the ties, so don't do it too often nor over do it whilst at it. As said, do it gentle, show patience and remember to keep an eye on the tie and the towel and adjust them when you feel it is necessary. I have been lucky with both methods, but I recommend you try the first before ironing. Good luck.
post #3 of 17
Thicker ties (like your CT) are really meant to be tied with smaller knots, like a half Windsor or a four in hand. If you prefer using the full Windsor, I'd suggest getting thinner ties. It's also all in how you tie your knot. Some people don't tighten their knots enough so the finished knot looks huge.

As for the wrinkles you should NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners. Either use the steamer setting on your iron (but never let the iron touch the tie!) or invest in a hand steamer. After steaming stretch the tie VERY gently vertically to help get it back to it's original shape. Also NEVER leave your ties knotted when your not wearing them. Always untie them properly before storing.

post #4 of 17
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Originally Posted by CharlesAlexander View Post
Thicker ties (like your CT) are really meant to be tied with smaller knots, like a half Windsor or a four in hand. If you prefer using the full Windsor, I'd suggest getting thinner ties. It's also all in how you tie your knot. Some people don't tighten their knots enough so the finished knot look huge.

As for the wrinkles NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners. Either using the steamer setting on your iron (but never let the iron touch the tie!) or invest in a hand steamer. After steaming stretch the tie VERY gently vertically to help get it back to it's original shape. Also NEVER leave your ties knotted when your not wearing them. Always untie them properly before storing.


Thank you both!

Is there a proper way to untie a tie? Never heard of that!
post #5 of 17
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Originally Posted by BBdude View Post
Thank you both!

Is there a proper way to untie a tie? Never heard of that!

Just untie it gently the way you tied it (going backwards).
post #6 of 17
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Originally Posted by CharlesAlexander View Post
Thicker ties (like your CT) are really meant to be tied with smaller knots, like a half Windsor or a four in hand. If you prefer using the full Windsor, I'd suggest getting thinner ties. It's also all in how you tie your knot. Some people don't tighten their knots enough so the finished knot look huge.

As for the wrinkles NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners. Either using the steamer setting on your iron (but never let the iron touch the tie!) or invest in a hand steamer. After steaming stretch the tie VERY gently vertically to help get it back to it's original shape. Also NEVER leave your ties knotted when your not wearing them. Always untie them properly before storing.


Great advice Charles. This man knows his ties!
post #7 of 17
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Originally Posted by CharlesAlexander View Post
As for the wrinkles NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners.

I know you should avoid dry cleaning as much as possible, but what if you have spilled something on your tie?
post #8 of 17
Throw it out or use some lukewarm water and as little as possible/ mild detergent for dishwashing.
post #9 of 17
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Originally Posted by CharlesAlexander View Post
Thicker ties (like your CT) are really meant to be tied with smaller knots, like a half Windsor or a four in hand. If you prefer using the full Windsor, I'd suggest getting thinner ties. It's also all in how you tie your knot. Some people don't tighten their knots enough so the finished knot look huge.

As for the wrinkles NEVER send you tie to the dry cleaners. Either using the steamer setting on your iron (but never let the iron touch the tie!) or invest in a hand steamer. After steaming stretch the tie VERY gently vertically to help get it back to it's original shape. Also NEVER leave your ties knotted when your not wearing them. Always untie them properly before storing.


Yeah you should really get used to utilizing different knots for different ties. I remember Details talking about how Four-In-Hand is the only knot that you need to know, and I had a palm to forehead moment.
post #10 of 17
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Originally Posted by Kaplan View Post
I know you should avoid dry cleaning as much as possible, but what if you have spilled something on your tie?

Don't spill anything on your tie.

I've actually found that Tide sticks work pretty well for this depending on the size of the stain.
post #11 of 17
I removed a stain from a tie once by spot-cleaning it with rubbing alcohol, only dabbing at it lightly, and making sure it didn't soak in too much in by periodically drying it with a blower. Though there might have been a faint mark left afterwards, it didn't matter since the tie had a mottled pattern.
post #12 of 17
Of the 13 ways to tie a tie, there is bound to be one you like that works well. You can find them all here: http://totieatie.com Hope this helps you some. The shower thing works great by the way, had to do one the other day.
post #13 of 17
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Originally Posted by Mr. Darcy View Post
Of the 13 ways to tie a tie, there is bound to be one you like that works well.

You can find them all here: http://totieatie.com

Hope this helps you some. The shower thing works great by the way, had to do one the other day.

Or for the other 72 ways try this
post #14 of 17
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by FIHTies View Post
Or for the other 72 ways try this

I think the four-in-hand, full windsor, and half windsor will be enough for me right now!
post #15 of 17
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Originally Posted by CharlesAlexander View Post
Just untie it gently the way you tied it (going backwards).

Dont use my fathers favorite technique where he pulls and only lightens the torque up when he starts hearing threads snap. Good grief, I show the man, but he doesnt want to learn.
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