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Does Gitman make the stock Epaulet Oxford Buttondown? The fit picture in the new Epaulet by Gitman MTO is the same as the stock model oxford fit pic, which leads me to believe these shirts are one in the same. Minus the MTO options, of course.
 

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Does Gitman make the stock Epaulet Oxford Buttondown? The fit picture in the new Epaulet by Gitman MTO is the same as the stock model oxford fit pic, which leads me to believe these shirts are one in the same. Minus the MTO options, of course. 


Mike can confirm, but my understanding was that up to now New England Shirt Co. made all the shirts except the Ashland by Gitman stuff. Now, I think the MTOs will be made by Gitman, w/ Gitman fabrics and customization options, but in the Epaulet fit.

I think the stock shirting options will all still be NESC. Mike can correct me if this is wrong.
 

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Mike can confirm, but my understanding was that up to now New England Shirt Co. made all the shirts except the Ashland by Gitman stuff. Now, I think the MTOs will be made by Gitman, w/ Gitman fabrics and customization options, but in the Epaulet fit.

I think the stock shirting options will all still be NESC. Mike can correct me if this is wrong.
edit: I am mistaken about it, so nevermind!
 
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I thought Gitman was in PA, which is not part of New England. That would make someone a goddamn liar now, wouldn't it?
 

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Thanks for all of the orders today guys!

I've gotten a bunch of PM's about seeing the Gitman Bros fabrics in person, and I'm happy to say that all three stores (Brooklyn, Manhattan, Santa Monica) have a full book with all of the fabrics inside. Drop by anytime and we can both show you the fabrics and size you on the shirts.

Here's the mega-reply for everyone's questions...

If these jackets are any indication of the quality of the upcoming denim jacket and noragi, I'm beyond hyped.


You know how we roll! Believe me, we're taking all of the new product very seriously and working like hell to bring out great things.

Jean jackets are due in about 3 weeks. Noragi first sample is running through and we should have something to show you guys in a week or so..

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Holy shite, that deerskin jacket! I may have just found my "2014 Frivolous Thing to Spend Part of my Tax Return On"!

Also, Mike & crew, are there any black leather jackets in the pipeline?


Not for the Spring, but we got a small restock of the Wyatt in black horsehide and all sizes are once again available...

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Wyatt Motorcycle Jacket Black Horween Horsehide

Re: the MTO shirts... is the full-roll button-down collar (model BSU) the updated collar, aka the one with a bit more room for ties? Going to order a shirt as soon as I get confirmation!


Yes sir, that's the full traditional buttondown with plenty of room for a tie.

So no way on the MTO shirts to adjust the collar size?


Unfortunately no - at least not at this time. Presently, the only fit alterations that we can do are to shorten or lengthen the sleeves.

Will there be popovers available this spring?


Probably not as off the rack, but I'll check - maybe Gitman can produce them MTO. I don't see why not. We'll have a great linen collection going up next week which would make for rad popovers!

Agreed. Just a shame for me too wearing an XS or S but needing a 15.5 collar.


Yes, in terms of wearing these as dress shirts, you'll have to be in the pattern collar-wise. Although I'd say if the collar is a half inch bigger than what you typically take then you'll find these totally wearable closed and with a tie. One inch bigger is going to look large.

That said, many of the fabrics in here (oxford, sport, chambray) are pretty casual, so if you're not going to wear a tie then the collar should look just fine when it's open. The majority of our guys tend to wear the shirts with the collars open all of the time.

Just picked up a sweatshirt! Been waiting for these.


Thank you sir! My apologies that it took forever and a day to get these online.

sweatshirts look good, not too heritage-y which is nice. Will check them out when the jean restock hits Manhattan next week, I need new jeans badly.


Excellent, please come on by! We're still a few weeks away on the jeans, but we'll have all of the sweatshirts on hand there.

For the Gitman MTO any plans in the future to access older Gitman fabrics from previous seasons?


Well, we have to differentiate between Gitman Brothers and Gitman Vintage.

Gitman Brothers is the manufacturer and the factory. They're our partner for this. Gitman Vintage is one of many brands that Gitman Brothers produces. For the most part, Gitman Vintage has an exclusive on their own fabrics. So we wouldn't be able to access them.

That said, the next time that we have a factory finds round of off-price fabrics from Gitman Brothers, then we can probably offer some of them at really competitive MTO prices for guys who want to order them individually.

Just snagged the Gitman MTO chambray and eyeing a couple other patterns. The plus 2 inches in the sleeves will be clutch - would have preferred added body length as well but good enough.

Mike, what are favorite fabrics from this opening salvo?


Thank you sir! You're going to be really pleased with these.

My favorite fabrics are:

1) TTX Oxford: easy no-brainer there. It's Gitman's signature English fabric and one of the best oxfords in the biz. The original Thom Browne oxfords were made by Gitman in this exact cloth, and if you had one of those then you'll know how boss it is.

2) Bengal Stripes: These are so cool, and I'm especially loving the black/white ones. Our very own applky made up an MTO Ashland fit shirt in this fabric and it's really elegant:

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3) Compact yarn multi-gingham in the sport section. Great colors and a really smooth hand on this. Compact yarn is really long wearing too.

For the Gitman MTO shirting, is this going to be offered for a while? Or will these only be up for a limited time?

Also, are these fabrics limited or will they be continued to be offered into the future?


These are Gitman's "perpetual" fabrics, so they should be in stock all of the time. Individual colors may come in and go out from time to time, but they're not limited.

Is the MTO compact point collar different than the point collar on the denim work shirt? If so, how do they differ?


You mean the $110 denim work shirt that we've been running for a while now? They're actually very similar in overall shape and size. I'd give Gitman the edge on construction and finishing though.

The EPLA denim shirt collars are a different beast entirely.

I'm also curious about the origin of the imported fabrics.


The TTX Oxford is English and the Compact Yarn Multi-Gingham is Austrian. Most of the other fabrics are going to be English or Italian - those are generally the two sources for premium dress and casual shirting fabrics. I don't believe that there are any Japanese fabrics in the Gitman MTO book, although much of the Gitman Vintage line is Japanese.

Does Gitman make the stock Epaulet Oxford Buttondown? The fit picture in the new Epaulet by Gitman MTO is the same as the stock model oxford fit pic, which leads me to believe these shirts are one in the same. Minus the MTO options, of course. 


Yes, sorry for the confusion here. Up until now, nearly all of our shirts were made by New England Shirt.

Starting with this season, they'll be four options for Epaulet shirting:

Gitman Brothers Stock: Epaulet in-house fit in Gitman fabrics, made in PA
Gitman Brothers MTO: the program we all know as of today
New England Stock: Epaulet in-house fit in New England's fabrics, made in MA.
EPLA: More casual double-needle denim, overdye, and washed fabrics made in CA

In terms of the basic blue oxford, they'll be four options come six weeks from now:

1. Epaulet Buttondown Oxford (Japanese oxford, made by NE): $130
2. Epaulet by Gitman Brothers Buttondown Oxford (made by Gitman in English TTX Oxford): $150
^ These two will essentially have the same fit and pattern

3. EPLA Washed Buttondown Oxford (Japanese oxford, made in Los Angeles): $95
4. EPLA Overdyed Buttondown Oxford (same fabric, overdyed with natural indigo, made in Los Angeles): $110

Mike can confirm, but my understanding was that up to now New England Shirt Co. made all the shirts except the Ashland by Gitman stuff. Now, I think the MTOs will be made by Gitman, w/ Gitman fabrics and customization options, but in the Epaulet fit.

I think the stock shirting options will all still be NESC. Mike can correct me if this is wrong.


First part is all correct. But we'll continue to stock select New England shirts going forward. New England and Gitman both offer their own books of fabrics, so we'll work to choose the best from both of them. The overall fit and details will be extremely similar between both of them, so your experience should be similar regardless of maker. But as Spring shirts roll in, we'll mention the manufacturer in the copy.
 

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Thanks for all of the orders today guys!

I've gotten a bunch of PM's about seeing the Gitman Bros fabrics in person, and I'm happy to say that all three stores (Brooklyn, Manhattan, Santa Monica) have a full book with all of the fabrics inside. Drop by anytime and we can both show you the fabrics and size you on the shirts.

Here's the mega-reply for everyone's questions...
You know how we roll! Believe me, we're taking all of the new product very seriously and working like hell to bring out great things.

Jean jackets are due in about 3 weeks. Noragi first sample is running through and we should have something to show you guys in a week or so..


Not for the Spring, but we got a small restock of the Wyatt in black horsehide and all sizes are once again available...



Wyatt Motorcycle Jacket Black Horween Horsehide
Yes sir, that's the full traditional buttondown with plenty of room for a tie.
Unfortunately no - at least not at this time. Presently, the only fit alterations that we can do are to shorten or lengthen the sleeves.
Probably not as off the rack, but I'll check - maybe Gitman can produce them MTO. I don't see why not. We'll have a great linen collection going up next week which would make for rad popovers!
Yes, in terms of wearing these as dress shirts, you'll have to be in the pattern collar-wise. Although I'd say if the collar is a half inch bigger than what you typically take then you'll find these totally wearable closed and with a tie. One inch bigger is going to look large.

That said, many of the fabrics in here (oxford, sport, chambray) are pretty casual, so if you're not going to wear a tie then the collar should look just fine when it's open. The majority of our guys tend to wear the shirts with the collars open all of the time.
Thank you sir! My apologies that it took forever and a day to get these online.
Excellent, please come on by! We're still a few weeks away on the jeans, but we'll have all of the sweatshirts on hand there.
Well, we have to differentiate between Gitman Brothers and Gitman Vintage.

Gitman Brothers is the manufacturer and the factory. They're our partner for this. Gitman Vintage is one of many brands that Gitman Brothers produces. For the most part, Gitman Vintage has an exclusive on their own fabrics. So we wouldn't be able to access them.

That said, the next time that we have a factory finds round of off-price fabrics from Gitman Brothers, then we can probably offer some of them at really competitive MTO prices for guys who want to order them individually.
Thank you sir! You're going to be really pleased with these.

My favorite fabrics are:

1) TTX Oxford: easy no-brainer there. It's Gitman's signature English fabric and one of the best oxfords in the biz. The original Thom Browne oxfords were made by Gitman in this exact cloth, and if you had one of those then you'll know how boss it is.

2) Bengal Stripes: These are so cool, and I'm especially loving the black/white ones. Our very own applky made up an MTO Ashland fit shirt in this fabric and it's really elegant:



3) Compact yarn multi-gingham in the sport section. Great colors and a really smooth hand on this. Compact yarn is really long wearing too.
These are Gitman's "perpetual" fabrics, so they should be in stock all of the time. Individual colors may come in and go out from time to time, but they're not limited.
You mean the $110 denim work shirt that we've been running for a while now? They're actually very similar in overall shape and size. I'd give Gitman the edge on construction and finishing though.

The EPLA denim shirt collars are a different beast entirely.
The TTX Oxford is English and the Compact Yarn Multi-Gingham is Austrian. Most of the other fabrics are going to be English or Italian - those are generally the two sources for premium dress and casual shirting fabrics. I don't believe that there are any Japanese fabrics in the Gitman MTO book, although much of the Gitman Vintage line is Japanese.
Yes, sorry for the confusion here. Up until now, nearly all of our shirts were made by New England Shirt.

Starting with this season, they'll be four options for Epaulet shirting:

Gitman Brothers Stock: Epaulet in-house fit in Gitman fabrics, made in PA
Gitman Brothers MTO: the program we all know as of today
New England Stock: Epaulet in-house fit in New England's fabrics, made in MA.
EPLA: More casual double-needle denim, overdye, and washed fabrics made in CA

In terms of the basic blue oxford, they'll be four options come six weeks from now:

1. Epaulet Buttondown Oxford (Japanese oxford, made by NE): $130
2. Epaulet by Gitman Brothers Buttondown Oxford (made by Gitman in English TTX Oxford): $150
^ These two will essentially have the same fit and pattern

3. EPLA Washed Buttondown Oxford (Japanese oxford, made in Los Angeles): $95
4. EPLA Overdyed Buttondown Oxford (same fabric, overdyed with natural indigo, made in Los Angeles): $110
First part is all correct. But we'll continue to stock select New England shirts going forward. New England and Gitman both offer their own books of fabrics, so we'll work to choose the best from both of them. The overall fit and details will be extremely similar between both of them, so your experience should be similar regardless of maker. But as Spring shirts roll in, we'll mention the manufacturer in the copy.


Michael - Many thanks for the detailed explanations, particularly for my particular question about oxfords. I am new to Epaulet and I am sold. Thanks again.
 

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#NORAGI :slayer:

And a pretty cool glimpse of the production process too.

Mike: Who does this kind of drawing? You? Someone from the workshop putting the piece together?
 
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Are any of these Gitman MTO fabrics particularly good for summer weather?
 

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Thanks for all of the orders today guys!

Well, we have to differentiate between Gitman Brothers and Gitman Vintage.

Gitman Brothers is the manufacturer and the factory. They're our partner for this. Gitman Vintage is one of many brands that Gitman Brothers produces. For the most part, Gitman Vintage has an exclusive on their own fabrics. So we wouldn't be able to access them.

That said, the next time that we have a factory finds round of off-price fabrics from Gitman Brothers, then we can probably offer some of them at really competitive MTO prices for guys who want to order them individually.
Thank you sir! You're going to be really pleased with these.


Thanks for the response, looking forward the the FF
 

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Is the Gitman cutaway collar the same as the regular stock cutaway? Just curious, why not a spread type collar available?
 

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#NORAGI :slayer:

And a pretty cool glimpse of the production process too.

Mike: Who does this kind of drawing? You? Someone from the workshop putting the piece together?


Yup, it will be a reality soon! I was just speaking with Matt about it. I think that we're going to sample it four ways:

1) Rinsed Indigo
2) Distressed Indigo
3) OD Black
4) Bleach Wash (extremely light blue)

This item will be launched as an Epaulet x Styleforum piece and we'll do some sort of voting/polling for details and such. We'll work on some co-branding and special things for it. We can't wait!

Oh, and that drawing is from our patternmaker. I'm not much of a sketch artist, so we do most of our prototype work as photoshop mockups. The patternmaker took our design files and then sketched out this drawing for the first prototype.

Was there a sale coupon or something or am I just imagining things?

 Does anyone have experience with the Solovair Oxblood boots?

 http://epauletnewyork.com/collections/sale/products/coventry-oxblood-10-eye-boot

Wondering how they might look after being darkened a bit and aged.


Yes, we had a 25% off sale coupon that ran from last Thursday through this Sunday.

The leather is very similar to what Doc Martens used back in the day (Solovair was their old manufacturer) so if you've seen a very worn pair of cherry doc's then you might be familiar with it. As the leather ages and gets conditioned, it tends to take on a bit of a shine and a smoother appearance. Kind of like this:

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That said, you really need to wear them a lot to get to that point. Even without the discount, they're a pretty boss deal at this price. We didn't sell them well, but everyone here at Epaulet really loves them, and we all own a pair.

Are any of these Gitman MTO fabrics particularly good for summer weather?


None of these are very seasonal - most of them are in the general weight of a dress shirt, and the TTX oxford is that typical beefy oxford with a open, breathable weave. Out of our current assortment, I'd say that the chambray is best suited to Summer. The End on End will make for a very breathable dressy shirt as well. That fabric is brilliant actually, I ordered my first shirt in it.

That said, I'm getting some more swatches soon and they'll be a full lineup of linens which will be brilliant for summer. We should have those online next week.

Michael - Many thanks for the detailed explanations, particularly for my particular question about oxfords. I am new to Epaulet and I am sold. Thanks again.


Thank you sir!
 

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I'm excited to see how the Noragi shapes up. I watched the Seven Samurai the other day with a couple of friends and was really impressed by the traditional Japanese dress. Specifically, and this is not just the territory of Japanese culture, robes. They create the same v-shape as a suit jacket, raise the perceived waist line, but allow for a much more relaxed fit. The folded cloth at the hem also acts as a kind of lapel. It was also interesting to note how the large armholes really become their own thing, changing the overall silhouette rather than looking awkward on slender forearms. That said, I can't wait to see how Mike & crew adapt the shape to be wearable here in the west by giving it something like the shape of an unbuttoned cardigan.
 

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Will epaulet consider a special run of Madras One-Button Tuxedo Jacket? It is wonderful!
 

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