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Originally Posted by nickpapagiorgio View Post
 

Hell of a deal.  Would the grey option be one of/closer to the light or medium grey below (not sure if these are S110s or not)?  Also, would Rudy trousers be an option (whether with or without an MTO charge)?

 

 

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Originally Posted by Steel28 View Post

Hold on a second...$600 for SB suit in VB fabric? Daaaaaaaamn.

 

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Originally Posted by avsmusic1 View Post
 

@Epaulet  Will you have in-between sizes in the new suiting options? Or does the Vittorio fit solve for some of us that would prefer a 39 or 41 in standard Southwick? 

 

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Originally Posted by metranger8694 View Post
 


Wow. That's $195 less than the Navy seersucker suit. Wish it was the other way around!

 

Seersucker fabric must be more expensive.

 

 

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Originally Posted by sarteaga View Post
 

Mike, what would be the largest size in the SB VBC suit in navy? I have a pretty large chest, and am usually a 48 with most OTR. $600 for a navy VBC suit would be great.

 

 

Hey everyone, 

 

Thanks for the feedback! I'll have the actual products here very soon to show you, but let me give you the background. 

 

The voyage for our "Epaulet Suit" started about a year ago. I've been to six suiting factories throughout Portugal and one in Italy. The idea was: 

 

1) Proper fabric (Using VBC 110's in this case)

2) Retail between $500 - $600

3) "Vittorio" Spec jacket (half-canvas, unlined lapel, un-constructed shoulder, butterfly liner)

4) Properly made trousers (light constructed waistband, split back with seam allowance, good zippers)

 

If you want to make an unremarkable suit in Europe for about $400-$500 retail, it's not hard to do. There's quite a few wacko brands advertising on this very site that do it. You can use imported fabric and you can use cheap construction. There's nothing inherently wrong with that (and most of these indie brands are selling better stuff than the garbage at J.Crew), but I wanted to do something exceptional. 

 

The Epaulet suit has a brilliant jacket and trouser. The coat fits very well and it's light and comfortable. It has the cleanest make of anything I could find at this price. And doing this kind of make is radically more expensive than a fully-lined and constructed piece. It's going to fit the majority of you guys really well straight OTR, and that's what it's designed to do. We modeled the overall fit after the Vittorio and the Walt - our best-selling and best-fitting sportcoat and trouser, respectively. Now, there ARE some limitations here: 

 

1) Our suit jacket has less hand-work than both Southwick and Luigi Bianchi. The shoulder is finished by machine instead of by hand. This doesn't really impact how it fits or wears, but a hand shoulder is something that people value

2) The fabric options are limited. In order to get an economy of scale on purchasing cloth, we hit a large minimum with VBC. So this is only going to come in navy and grey twill for now. I'll probably add in an oxford grey flannel for Fall and maybe a black twill. So at any given time, there will only be a few options - but we'll endeavor to keep those navy and grey staples in stock all of the time. 

3) The stock sizes are US36 through US44. Even sizes only. And regular length only. Sleeves can be adjusted up or down slightly if you need it. 

4) Everything is off the rack. Our factory does not do made to order - they only produce things in minimum batches. 

 

I love Southwick and I'm absolutely committed to working with them. These Epaulet suits are designed as a compliment to our Southwick line, not a direct competitor. They're a way for us to offer a nicely made staple piece at a very competitive price. I think that the Southwick VBC suit for $1100 is a pretty great deal - and their stock fabrics are more pricey than the S110s we'll use for OTR. But that price is sometimes more than our customers want to pay. Some guys are on a budget and some guys simply don't need a suit that badly to justify the expense. For them, we'll offer this $600 option. We'll always have our Southwick MTO program for anyone who needs special sizing or is looking for a special fabric. 

 

And you'll see shirts developing the same way. I'll start to bring in more OTR shirting at that $95 - $110 price point. But we'll always have Individualized for someone who wants/needs something special. 

 

After the stuff comes in, I want to run the marketing plan by you guys for these. I think that the simplicity of the suiting products (two jackets, one pant, two fabrics) can work to our advantage. I want to keep it easy. The jacket is very light and comfortable, and these could be styled either fully dressed up with a shirt and tie, or dressed down and LA-style with trainers and a henley. I want that dude on Reddit who buys our white tennis trainers because the reviews say that they're the best to look at this suit and think "wow, that could be for me" - even if his job doesn't require him to dress that way. 

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Originally Posted by applky View Post
 

 

I was picking up some items in store when the sample was in, so I got to try it on. After, Mike told me the price and I was very surprised. It's an excellent suit, and a great value.

 

@avsmusic1 I wear a 37 in Southwick (also an in between size) and the 38 seemed like a great fit.

 

@applky @avsmusic1 yeah, we've fit tested this on quite a few people. The Vittorio shape - like our existing stock of Luigi Bianchi pieces - lends itself well to fitting. Many guys who would typically need an odd size find that one of the Vittorio evens work. The shoulders are soft enough to drape, so I typically recommend getting the larger of the two and taking in the waist a bit if need be. 

 

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Originally Posted by metranger8694 View Post
 


Wow. That's $195 less than the Navy seersucker suit. Wish it was the other way around!

 

Seersucker fabric must be more expensive.

 

@metranger8694 well, you're not totally wrong there. US companies pay pretty serious taxes on fabric that's imported. Which is pretty stupid as basically no suiting wools are made domestically any longer, so this only serves to make our domestic clothing manufacturers less competitive. 

 

But anyway...

 

Wool is typically a lot more expensive than seersucker, but given that our VBC S110s is sourced and sewn in Europe vs the tonal Seersucker that's woven in Europe, sent here, and taxed - the final price is probably about the same. 

 

The rest of the price difference is going to come down to labor. Your Seersucker suit was an individually cut and made MTO piece. This is a stock item that we made 100 units of. 

 

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Originally Posted by duff406 View Post


These will be through the MTO program, correct? I'm looking to pick up one or two for the summer and was just about to order some...

 

@duff406 yes sir, the linens will all be run through Individualized MTO. I'll have them up by Friday, along with a video. 

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Thank you @Epaulet for the information. Disappointed that the sizing will end at 44US.

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@Epaulet Excited to see the suit. Does the jacket have patch or flap pockets? For someone that needs Rudy's mostly for the seat, but partially for the thighs, do you think there's going to be enough seam allowance in the waist of the pants to let out without adding huge pocket flare?

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Originally Posted by Duke Silver View Post
 

@Epaulet Excited to see the suit. Does the jacket have patch or flap pockets? For someone that needs Rudy's mostly for the seat, but partially for the thighs, do you think there's going to be enough seam allowance in the waist of the pants to let out without adding huge pocket flare?

 

@Duke Silver the jacket has a welt breast and hip open patch pockets. 

 

For the Rudy, I'm going to use myself as a test case. I REALLY want to own this suit. I typically take a 34, so I'm going to try and tailor in a 36 to see if it works. If I can get it to work than any Rudy guy can. I'll let you guys know. 

 

The jackets can be bought as separates too - and they'll be priced $495 for the SB and $545 for the DB. They're going to be rad on their own as navy sportcoats. 

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@epaulet Cooool. So if we're an odd size in Southwick then we should size up to the next even size?
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Originally Posted by Epaulet View Post

 

 

 

@metranger8694 well, you're not totally wrong there. US companies pay pretty serious taxes on fabric that's imported. Which is pretty stupid as basically no suiting wools are made domestically any longer, so this only serves to make our domestic clothing manufacturers less competitive. 

 

But anyway...

 

Wool is typically a lot more expensive than seersucker, but given that our VBC S110s is sourced and sewn in Europe vs the tonal Seersucker that's woven in Europe, sent here, and taxed - the final price is probably about the same. 

 

The rest of the price difference is going to come down to labor. Your Seersucker suit was an individually cut and made MTO piece. This is a stock item that we made 100 units of. 

 

Mike.

 

Thanks for the thoughtful explanation. Stupid government and their import taxes.

 

Should be a beautiful suit.

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@epaulet Cooool. So if we're an odd size in Southwick then we should size up to the next even size?

Bro, we are going to ask Mike to ship these to CBI and cross the border wearing shorts and tees and come back wearing VBC SB and DB hahaha
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Bummer about no short sizes! Sounds great though
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I guess the logical next question is...does this mean there could be a possibility for OTR sportcoats in seasonal staple fabrics? Same construction and similar price point, but in a brown tweed, grey herringbone, etc? Or will this continue to be LBM/Southwick territory

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Originally Posted by Thefenceposts View Post
 

I guess the logical next question is...does this mean there could be a possibility for OTR sportcoats in seasonal staple fabrics? Same construction and similar price point, but in a brown tweed, grey herringbone, etc? Or will this continue to be LBM/Southwick territory

 

@Thefenceposts that's the plan, but we're realistically looking at 1-2 seasonal fabrics per season. Has to be something that works on its own as an odd jacket or trouser. And is easy enough to move a lot of units. 

 

For Fall, I'll absolutely do an Oxford Grey Barberis 150s Flannel. That's going to move the price point out to maybe $750, but the guys who did Barberis Flannel trousers with Hertling can attest: this fabric is seriously freaking boss. And that makes sense as separates. The second option, if we do it, would most likely be a tweed. I'm thinking a nice brown or navy donegal, but it will depend on what's out there. I think that we can swing some stuff from Abraham Moon. 

 

And then Spring, we'd probably do a linen blend suit and a khaki cotton. Also great separates. 

 
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Originally Posted by sarteaga View Post
 

Thank you @Epaulet for the information. Disappointed that the sizing will end at 44US.

 

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Bummer about no short sizes! Sounds great though
 
@sarteaga @Dillardiv Yeah, we're going to be limited on our sizing and length range on these, but bear in mind - our Southwick EFF suiting was $795 for a 2-piece - and that's fully made to order. There's never any guarantees that we'll be able to do another round, but I'm quite sure that we will. We made nearly 500 suits via that program this year, so we can absolutely hook you guys up. 
 
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Bro, we are going to ask Mike to ship these to CBI and cross the border wearing shorts and tees and come back wearing VBC SB and DB hahaha

I'm in.

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Somelos oxford delivery today. Think this will be getting lots of wear this summer, starting Friday. If not sooner! Lovely shirt, great weight to the fabric.
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Even though I've blown like a gazillion bucks lately on Southwick stuff during the EFF events, I'm still excisted to see the new Epaulet suits.  Might be a way to get some of my friends into the Epaulet family.

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Fit photo from yesterday. We were profiling hard in Perth Amboy, N.E.W. Jerz.. where plenty drama occurs. Standing in a B-Boy stance. 

 

On me: 

DJA Sea Island Cotton MTO Individualized Shirt, Artisan Collar

Taylor Trouser Grey Hopsack

Vass Museum Calf Monks

 

On Jim:

Blue British Oxford MTO Individualized Shirt

Taylor Trouser Khaki Military Twill

Shell Alden Loafers

 

 

Right after I put this on Instagram, someone commented "Mark Cuban and Peyton Manning spotted!"

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