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post #826 of 843
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Originally Posted by Asian Afro View Post

Most of your questions are best directed at Cliff, as only he can answer them properly, but I'll give them a stab.
5) The leather on my Roberts is stiff, but no stiffer than Allen Edmonds', for example. It's definitely not as supple as EG's. I haven't worn my Roberts long enough to know how they wear..

For an extra 60-100 pounds (depending on market price) Cliff got me better quality box calf leather. I noticed the difference in the way it felt and looked after some good shoe shines. Can't tell much about durability as I've had the 3 pairs of shoes for about a year.

Do not hesitate to pay for better quality leather...especially for less than 100 pounds for calf leather
post #827 of 843

I'm kind of lost in this thread... how do I see what Cliff is offering/ order from him,and what is the price range?

post #828 of 843
About a year on, having moved overseas and almost forgotten about my order, I received an email from Cliff letting me know the shoes are done. Bespoke lasts from Springline (two fittings with Cliff), ordered more or less a copy of the G&G Adelaide



Will only get to see them and try them on when I'm going back to London for Christmas, but judging from the pictures below Cliff sent me, I think they will be fine. Indoor lighting, Cliff says they are darker in reality. My initial fairly minor concerns seeing the pictures are 1. Color looks a little light and bland, had asked for more antiquing, but cliff assures me they are deeper red in natural light 2. Lace eyelets are straight and not widening down the shoe (minor issue) 3. Think I will have Springline make me a last more like the G&Gs square one, biting the ground. This one is based on my own pictures of toe shapes I liked, something between an oval and square toe. Not Cliff's fault.

All in all, I think these will be good value for around GBP350 + Springline last (somewhere around 300 I recall). Keep in mind that Cliff is a shoemaker, not a businessman; I think he makes great shoes at great prices, but he is useless at estimating delivery times and lacks any staff to communicate with customers. Final verdict ones I have tried on the shoes.




post #829 of 843
Cliff does seem to have an eccentric eye for toe caps, by most peoples' standards too small but yours appear too long if anything.

I hope to have another pair of shoes from Cliff soon and will post picture when I receive them but do not hold your breath.
post #830 of 843
Seeing some earlier results, I think I did ask for a longer toe cap. The distance between the throat line broguing and the toe cap looks correct to me, but I agree the toe cap itself looks just a bit too long. I'm a size 43/UK8.5, so it's a pretty average sized shoe.
post #831 of 843
I have just received the pair of shoes Cliff I mentioned above. They are a pair of Adelaide shoes in a beautiful ox-blood/espresso colour (v dark burgungy). I will post pictures as soon as I have taken photos along with the pair am wearing now which Cliff made for me in 2009. BTW Cliff seems to be making with a longer toe cap these days as you will see.
post #832 of 843
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.....I did ask for a longer toe cap. The distance between the throat line broguing and the toe cap looks correct to me, but I agree the toe cap itself looks just a bit too long.

Conventional wisdom is the toe cap occupies about 2/3 of the length between vamp-point (where the vamp ends and the lacing begins) and the toe. Which is approximately the case in this particular shoe.

But a 'straight' toe cap is not cut actually straight, but the top forms a radius of about 12", so the line is sloping down the sides of the foot ever so slightly. Here the straight line appears to be cut dead-straight, so the visual effect is the toe cap is rising towards the edge of the shoe.
post #833 of 843
As promised here are some pictures of Cliff's latest shoes. Please excuse my poor photography but these are really stylish shoes for a wide foot.

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And here are some he made earlier (3 years wear)

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Cliff is a craftsman and I have always found him true to his word even if sometimes things take their time.
post #834 of 843
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Originally Posted by culverwood View Post

As promised here are some pictures of Cliff's latest shoes. Please excuse my poor photography but these are really stylish shoes for a wide foot.
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And here are some he made earlier (3 years wear)
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Cliff is a craftsman and I have always found him true to his word even if sometimes things take their time.
new ones look best.
post #835 of 843
I think so too but the old ones have been well used and my photography skills are pretty poor. Cliff now seems to be making a toe cap more along the proportions that bengal stripe mentioned and it certainly looks better off the foot, having said that the small toe cap he used to make looks fine on the foot.
post #836 of 843
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new ones look best.

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I think so too..... Cliff now seems to be making a toe cap more along the proportions that bengal stripe mentioned and it certainly looks better off the foot, having said that the small toe cap he used to make looks fine on the foot.

I must admit, I do have a penchant for smallish toe caps. They have been out of fashion for a number of years, but it appears the pendulum is swinging back.

Here is an example by Aubercy, as featured on the ‘Claymoore’ blog
http://claymoor.blogspot.ro/

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The shoes do break the 2/3 : 1/3 rule not by a small, but by a huge margin. Nevertheless the result is rather stunning.
post #837 of 843
Agree that the Abercies looks great, despite "off proportions". To me it comes down to the absolute length of the toe cap. The Aubercy looks good because the toe cap has a decent length; the longer vamp space doesn't disturb.

The problem I have with culverwood's shoe is not so much the proportions, but the very short toe cap.



Your new shoes are gorgeous though, culverwood. Beautiful color. I do hope natural light and a good 2h shine session will bring my shoes out from the dull flat color they seem to have on the pictures.
post #838 of 843
Yes, the cap is indeed oddly short. Reminds me of Barber Black's eccentric pairs.
post #839 of 843

Great work, are they ready yet ? Well done Cliff.

post #840 of 843
I should have ordered from him when I was still in London, oh well..., so anyone commissioned anything new recently?
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