Originally Posted by Mess
Can someone give me some details about how Cliff is working atm please. I am thinking of rewarding myself if I get a new job and the questions I am thinking of are:
1) Can you choose the length between the end of the shoe and the cap as it always seems very small in comparison to most shoes on the market.
2) What is the current wait time?
3) What is the current price?
4) Does the rounded toe look quite as full in real life? Are there any other toe shapes outside of round and chiselled/round?
5) What is the quality of leather like? How has it been for people after a fair amount of wear?
6) How does the leather shine up?
7) Does he replace the soles as they wear? How much does he charge if so?
Most of your questions are best directed at Cliff, as only he can answer them properly, but I'll give them a stab.
1) Cliff's shoes have more toe room than they look.
2) As you can see from this thread, the wait can vary between a few months to years. My first order took seven months, but the delay was due to his unsuccessful business venture.
3) Using an existing pattern, his last, and his choice of leather (as in I only specified calf leather) the cost was around 375 pounds (350 pounds + postage). A new pattern costs an extra 30 pounds.
4) On the left is an Edward Green Elmsley in 202 last, UK size 7; on the right is Cliff Roberts' in his round-toe last, also UK size 7. Roberts' has more toe room.
FWIW, the EG outsole measures 11 1/8" x 4"; Roberts' outsole measures 11" x 3 3/4". The EG hurt my right little toe until broken in. Roberts' does not hurt.
5) The leather on my Roberts is stiff, but no stiffer than Allen Edmonds', for example. It's definitely not as supple as EG's. I haven't worn my Roberts long enough to know how they wear. (I received them in January, which was deep winter. Just started wearing them last week.)
6) I haven't given my Roberts a proper shine yet. (Yes, I know it's a crime.)
7) I imagine he would replace the soles, but I don't know how much he charges.