Chan's house style is nothing like A&S, at least in my understanding of the A&S style. Chan normally uses a far more built-up shoulder than A&S, and does not cut their suits with the looseness and drape across the chest and shoulder blade that A&S does. Chan can make the shoulders differently with relative ease, but I don't know how successfully they can duplicate the drape cut.[/quote] Thanks for the warning. I've read posts describing Chan's shoulders as rather built up and advice from johnnynorman3 to specify "really light padding", but I honestly haven't figured out what "drape" means yet. Reading manton's HOF post on suit silhouettes helped, but pictures would be even more helpful (I think I'm still confused about differences between "swell" and "drape" and especially about how different styles differ. Does "swell" refer to how far the jacket is lifted or built up off the chest, whereas "drape" refers to how vertically it hangs?). I guess I'm where dah328 is, I can distinguish a sack suit or American cut, which I don't like, but I don't have enough experience to distinguish between the others (I did look at Attolini recently and noted the really, really high gorge).