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Corneliali?

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I'm not very familiar with Corneliali. I assume its about teh same as Canali and in the neighborhood of a Zegna, Armani, etc. Would anyone here recommend it? I saw a nice Navy blue 3-button Corneliali in a discount store for $699 -- seems like a good deal. I was going to buy it but wanted some opinions first. Anyone have any knowledge about Corneliali?
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Corneliani, my bad. Thanks for the insight. I think I'll buy it.
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Corneliani and Canali are quite similar in style and size. They are medium-sized manufacturers of very good "handmade" suits. They are not at the top level with Kiton or Brioni, but then their prices are considerably below those manufacturers. Armani is a designer: a designer does not "make" anything, he has contracts with manufacturers who have the capacity to produce the merchandise required. The suits for Armani collezioni is made by GFT (who are huge and produce stuff for almost everybody in the world) while his black label suits are made by Hilton confezione. The workmanship of Corneliani and Canali is far superior to GFT (always fused) and probably on a similar level with Hilton. I am just comparing workmanship; if you prefer the style of one label over another one, is a question of personal taste and preference. Whether Zengna produces its own suits or farm them out, I don't know. Zegna was (and still is) primarily a cloth mill, so one day, they produced a few suits to show their materials to their best advantage. That little sideline has become a massive industry by now, and Zengna might well have acquired their own production facilities on the way. (Some Zegna suits are made in Switzerland others in Italy), Equally it is quite possible (although I don't know for certain) that Corneliani and Canali manufacture "designer-suits" under the label of someone else.
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Corneliani and Canali are quite similar in style and size. They are medium-sized manufacturers of very good "handmade" suits. They are not at the top level with Kiton or Brioni, but then their prices are considerably below those manufacturers. Armani is a designer: a designer does not "make" anything, he has contracts with manufacturers who have the capacity to produce the merchandise required. The suits for Armani collezioni is made by GFT (who are huge and produce stuff for almost everybody in the world) while his black label suits are made by Hilton confezione. The workmanship of Corneliani and Canali is far superior to GFT (always fused) and probably on a similar level with Hilton. I am just comparing workmanship; if you prefer the style of one label over another one, is a question of personal taste and preference. Whether Zengna produces its own suits or farm them out, I don't know. Zegna was (and still is) primarily a cloth mill, so one day, they produced a few suits to show their materials to their best advantage. That little sideline has become a massive industry by now, and Zengna might well have acquired their own production facilities on the way. (Some Zegna suits are made in Switzerland others in Italy), Equally it is quite possible (although I don't know for certain) that Corneliani and Canali manufacture "designer-suits" under the label of someone else.
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Manton: I did not say there was something wrong with contracting out, and yes, Savile Row has used sub-contractors from the year dot. Your measurements are taken and the cloth is cut on the premises, then it goes to a workshop in the Eastend (where rents are low), gets stitched together, then it goes back and forth in the various stages for fittings and adjustments. A top-class tailor would even used different workshops, specializing in jacket, trousers. waistcoat. Manufacturers have always produced under someone else's label. It used to be the label of the man's shop, like it is still the case at Paul Stuart. But the shirt "made in Italy for Paul Stuart" might well come from the same factory as "Designer X", X's shirt might have more flair and style but it is not better made. "Designers" have taken over the role of the wholesaler and merchandiser. What are Tommy Hilfiger or Ralph Lauren: merchandisers, maybe even merchandisers with genius, but merchandisers non the less. That was the point I was trying to make, style and production qualities do not necessarily go hand in hand. Brioni suits are beautifully made, but they produce some unbelievable stinkers (all white silk with golden embroidery) but then, those suits aim at a different market.
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Stu, I don't know anything about their suits, but I love the shirts from Corneliani. The tailoring seem to be of high quality. Marcus
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