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post #3736 of 3745
Briefly put, there's a big difference between a lone dog and a pack of dogs going up against large carnivores like bears and mountain lions.

Mountain lions are much bolder and more aggressive toward dogs than they used to be. The reason for this seems to be that wolves used to hunt and kill the lions. This seemed to carry over to dogs--a small, yapping dog could often tree a lion. In most parts of the country, there haven't been any wolves for generations, and the lions have lost their fear of dogs. Some make a specialty of killing and eating dogs, including those of big, tough breeds.
post #3737 of 3745

I normally don't worry about cougar until I am in Wy. and West, and then I don't usually have my dog with me. But they show up around here from time to time. In May a cougar about a mile from my house took down a 200lb. Great Dane which had to be put down. It was at the bottom of the ravine where I live at the top of it. Most of my friends stopped putting bells and beepers on their bird dogs because the bear and wolves have learned that it is their dinner bell and have lost dogs to both. I don't let the dog out of my sight when in the Mn. Arrowhead. I prefer to wait until bear start to hibernate to run the dog if I can but that makes for a short season.

 

A free running dog will often chase big game and in most States it is legal to shoot the dog if you see one running big game. I never have but many of my friends will. I have an e-fence that covers an acre around the house and the dog doesn't go outside it. Only problem is it doesn't keep other dogs out. If a dog enters on my property and I feel it is a threat to me, my dog, or family I will not hesitate to shoot the trespasser. And am well in my legal right to do so. But most people that move from the city to the country don't loose their dog to any of the above reasons. There are still roads and traffic of some type from logging trucks to cars. And they get hit on a regular basis. I can't think of a single reason to let a dog run free unless he is trained or contained to his own property. 

post #3738 of 3745
We are south of norcal but we have all of the same animals. I would never let the dear boy out unsupervised. I don't actually worry about any of the animals hunting him, I just worry about him stumbling into some kind of stupidity.
post #3739 of 3745
Thread Starter 

http://www.ktvu.com/ap/ap/us/mountain-lion-attacks-california-boy/nhHjR/

 

CUPERTINO, Calif. — 

A mountain lion attacked a 6-year-old boy Sunday in Northern California and began dragging him away before his father and another man fought the animal off, authorities said.

 

 

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A dog that stays away all night is a dog that wont come back one day. 

 

lefty


Edited by lefty - 9/8/14 at 4:44am
post #3740 of 3745
Funny, but I honestly can't imagine tying my dog up or investing in a n invisible fence way out here and I'm not alone in that. Another guy on the same land lets his dog run free, as does our closest neighbor about two miles down the road.
The biggest threat is a car even out here, and if she is eaten by a lion so be it but I very much doubt that is her fate.

How would you guys keep deer out of the garden, foxes out of the hen house, and hippies at bay if not with a dog?

Oh and least you all think I'm totally negligent she spends most nights inside lounging like a beast and she prefers to hang close even when I'm not forcing her too. It's not like she's constantly out unsupervised.

Btw the bear was back the other day, he eat all the pears off one tree and left a nice pile of crap at the bottom of the orchard
post #3741 of 3745
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Originally Posted by lefty View Post

http://www.ktvu.com/ap/ap/us/mountain-lion-attacks-california-boy/nhHjR/

CUPERTINO, Calif. — 




A mountain lion attacked a 6-year-old boy Sunday in Northern California and began dragging him away before his father and another man fought the animal off, authorities said.



 



 





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A dog that stays away all night is a dog that wont come back one day. 

lefty
You don't think a 70 pound barking dog might have helped that situation? If nothing else - and its a lot- it lets you know something is up.
post #3742 of 3745
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Originally Posted by NorCal View Post

You don't think a 70 pound barking dog might have helped that situation? If nothing else - and its a lot- it lets you know something is up.

I posted a news article where a cat killed a 200 pound dog a mile from my house, so a 70 pounder is bringing a knife to a gunfight IMO. Big cats (cougar) worry me the most of anything because they just kind of show up and are "there". Many times when the attack they are elevated and dogs don't smell them either.

 

Most of my neighbors don't have underground fences either and when their dog gets hit by a car they just get another dog, and that is their choice. It is not mine though. To each their own decision as it should be. About that hen house and fox LOL, time to do some carpentry work a fox shouldn't be able to get in a decent tight chicken coop. Weasels and mink are a different story, but the best bet if you are loosing chickens is to invest in a digital caller with a dying rabbit call and red light for night time illumination. Call them in at night and shoot them, with the weather getting colder the pelts will start priming up soon.

 

Years ago in NC Pa. I was between a sow bear and 2 cubs, I had my wheel gun on me and thought for sure that I was going to have to use it. Mom turned and ran the other direction once she figured out what I was. When I lived in Washington State along the Olympic Peninsula I saw bear every time I went fly fishing when the salmon were spawning. Came around a bend in the river more than once face to face with a bear. They can't see for shit and stand up and squint sniffing the air trying to figure out what you are then usually at least walk off if not run off. Then 2 years ago in the Mn. Arrowhead I had a black bear try to get into my off road trailer one night. The dog and I were in the tent 6 feet away and the dog went crazy but the bear just growled and kept trying to get in the trailer. My gun was under the cot cased and the shells in another location in the tent. Took me 2 minutes trying to handle the dog and get the gun and shells around at the same time and by then the bear thank goodness gave up and walked away. The dog didn't phase him a bit, they can be very unpredictable especially about the time you think that you have them figured out. 

 

I posted a picture of a wolf killed deer a couple of pages back. It took until 2 AM for the pack to show up and when I took this picture https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3810/13666553783_0e5c79843a_c.jpg the pack was circling me and there was 8-12 of them, hard to tell for sure with the trees. The Alpha at times was 10 feet away, I yelled and shined the maglight on him and he always backed off. If I had a dog with me I would never had dared try that, it would have been a totally different situation and not a good one. Which is why he was back in the cabin.

 

In any event enjoy and have fun in your new home.

post #3743 of 3745
Were I ever to live in a rustic situation, I would wish to surround my house and its immediate environs with a high, sturdy fence. I love my dogs, and I wouldn't want one to be hit on a road, shot by a neighbor or taken by a predator. I realize that a fence can't stop all predators, but it reduces the risk.
post #3744 of 3745

Brutus turns 4 this month. This was taken in April 2014, he's showing a bit of grey in his beard:

 

 

 

Nov 2011:

 

 

 

April 2011:

 

 

And just a pup, Nov 2010 at 9 weeks old:

 

post #3745 of 3745
Thread Starter 

Chihuahua vs. coyote vs. Rottweiler.

 

 

lefty

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