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Are you running a dog walking business? 

I'd probably make more money if I did. My friend owns it. Next weekend we're boarding a Bernese.
post #3647 of 3696
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The problems with pitbulls is that all aggressive behavior becomes "well, it's a pitbull" when quite often it's not traditional dog-to-dog aggression, but something else entirely.

Dogness makes up a good 90% (I just pulled that out of my ass to make a point) of temperament in a dog. The other 10% is specific temperament that defines breeds.

Glad you're having a good time. Does your dog have a bandanna yet? They're good for hiding the e-collar remote trainer.

Are you running a dog walking business?

lefty 

How would you define "traditional dog-to-dog aggression" as opposed to other "non-traditional" dog aggression? I know one dog man--a Tosa guy--summed it up rather well when he said, "I don't like human aggression, I don't like opposite sex aggression, and I don't like small-dog aggression." My current Tosa Cyrus scores well on the first and third points but can be "iffy" with large bitches. Oddly enough, he is very fond of two huge Great Dane bitches that live nearby. He also is on cordial terms with the intact male Weimaraner that some near neighbors acquired as a pup late last year although I'm doubtful this will last as the pup matures--he's about eight months old now.

On the matter of the Belgian Mastiff, the dogs in the illustration that you posted are Belgian Mastiffs, I'm quite sure. Several sources I consulted seemed pretty certain the breed was extinct. To muddy the waters, some dogs are being sold today under the name "Belgian Mastiffs" that look like typical bandogs. One recently killed a woman in England.
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Thread Starter 

Every time I see some guy walking 10 dogs on the street I think, "that's $400 an hour right there".

 

lefty 

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There are a lot of triggers in breeds, but all can be modified or channeled if you know what you're doing. Your breed will be a good example of this. While his prey drive will kick in when he sees something run from him you'll be able to easily control/distract him.

Today he decided to confine a contractor to our bathroom. Thankfully he was working in there. The guy thought Norbert really liked him because he was spending so much time near him when he could be doing anything.

The one thing we are not training him to do is to be a "non-cattle dog" in the attempt to make him a nice, docile house pet. That seems like a waste. We call him the house pest, but he is actually becoming a very livable young guy. His trainer breeds mals, so she is fine with what he will need. She basically described his drives as "you see how he stares at you heeling even if you try to bat him away with your knees, he will be that focused on whatever he is interested in." So yeah, channeling is important. Oddly, he has zero interest in chasing balls or frisbees, which is fine because I have zero interest in that too, but anything alive or toys moving like they are and he locks on. Not sure why he distinguishes.
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Thread Starter 

I probably should have said "as developed in pitbulls". Their active aggression (fight drive) has been narrowed and developed to be canine specific (for the most part) and oddly without any type of reactive aggression (defense drive) or redirected aggression. It's hard to push good pitbulls into defense. I know as I've tried.

 

It's like a very specific combination of social aggression (dominance drive) and active aggression that is only seen in this one breed of dog. Not sure about Tosas.

 

The other types of aggression you see in dogs are typically rooted in a combination of social and reactive aggressions.

 

lefty

post #3651 of 3696
^Okay, I think I understand better what you mean. Pretty much the same for Tosas. Only one of my dogs really had much natural guard dog ability.

A lot of people don't realize that there can often be quite a lot of genetic shyness in highly bred fighting dogs since dogmen are mostly concerned with gameness and ability and don't care much about temperament as long as they're not man-biters. After the Michael Vick affair, it was claimed that some of his dogs were so shy that they couldn't be placed, ostensibly because they had been so traumatized by the "horrors" of Vick's yard. I firmly believe that if Michael Vick and his hirelings had been the kindliest men in the world, those dogs wouldn't have been much different.

Visited a shop recently where a positively enormous pit bull sprang upon me. Nothing to worry about, just a typical, exuberant pit bull greeting. The dog was a total sweetheart--as all good pits are.
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Well, since we are on the subject of APBTs here is a few pics of mine. I believe I posted a pic or two while back when he was just a pup, he just turned 3 last week








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Oddly, he has zero interest in chasing balls or frisbees, which is fine because I have zero interest in that too, but anything alive or toys moving like they are and he locks on. Not sure why he distinguishes.

frisbees are match made in heaven for me and my ACD* (i play disc golf so its a great way to practice throwing while he gets a job to do).

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*it seems like the aussie breeds like Boarder Collies, ACDs, and ASDs are the usual breeds in those frisbee competitions.
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http://gothamist.com/2014/06/15/photos_meet_the_mta_polices_newest.php#photo-1

finally, something MTA related that i can get behind
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hung out with a pomeranian yesterday. what a terrible excuse of a dog.

They are annoying as fuck, chihuahuas and papillons are up there as well, can't stand them.

Their constant yapping combined with the lack of sense of the owners drives me up the wall.
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A neighbor of ours when I was growing up had two pomeranians in succession. The first one, Tarzan, was a yappy little monster. The second, whose name I forget, was a very pleasant little dog--quiet and friendly. Our neighbor was eventually raped* and murdered and had her housed burned down on top of her. Maybe if she'd still had the dog, he could have sounded a warning and saved the day.

*She had previously been raped, so the assumption is that the rapist returned to finish the job, as it were. The woman was anything but sexually appealing--an elderly lesbian.
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That's fucked up
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A neighbor of ours when I was growing up had two pomeranians in succession. The first one, Tarzan, was a yappy little monster. The second, whose name I forget, was a very pleasant little dog--quiet and friendly. Our neighbor was eventually raped* and murdered and had her housed burned down on top of her. Maybe if she'd still had the dog, he could have sounded a warning and saved the day.

*She had previously been raped, so the assumption is that the rapist returned to finish the job, as it were. The woman was anything but sexually appealing--an elderly lesbian.

uhoh.gif

Bless her soul..
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A neighbor of ours when I was growing up had two pomeranians in succession. The first one, Tarzan, was a yappy little monster. The second, whose name I forget, was a very pleasant little dog--quiet and friendly. Our neighbor was eventually raped* and murdered and had her housed burned down on top of her. Maybe if she'd still had the dog, he could have sounded a warning and saved the day.

*She had previously been raped, so the assumption is that the rapist returned to finish the job, as it were. The woman was anything but sexually appealing--an elderly lesbian.

Jesus Christ. frown.gif

I've never been around any Pomeranians that were yappy, and I think I've been around a lot of them. They always seemed to be quite friendly. I would never have one (uhoh.gif) but they seem to be the perfect companion to a widow.
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