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Originally Posted by lefty View Post

There is a "breed" know as the Boston Bull which is a cross between a BT and an English Bulldog or a French Bulldog. Now she can walk a little taller.

lefty

My family (the American side) had a Boston Terrier back in the 1920s, when they were extremely popular. They often referred to her as a "Boston Bull." I have always thought, for the past 64 years or so, that "Boston Bull" was simply a synonym for Boston Terrier.
post #3377 of 3765
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There's been some movement to bring back the old Boston hence the infusion of Bulldog. Seems a little silly to add in a genetic mess, but I guess they get some size.

 

lefty 

post #3378 of 3765
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

My family (the American side) had a Boston Terrier back in the 1920s, when they were extremely popular. They often referred to her as a "Boston Bull." I have always thought, for the past 64 years or so, that "Boston Bull" was simply a synonym for Boston Terrier.

olde boston bulldogge. they run around 35-50lbs i've heard.





i guess they are trying to capture the older iterations of the breed before it was bred smaller and smaller.

could be a really great dog I assume, although I can only imagine the amount of kinetic energy/tenacity regular boston's have with 20lbs more weight and size on them.laugh.gif

i'm sure that instead of people asking if its a french or if its a boston, they'd now assume an olde boston bulldogge is a pitbull mix.tongue.gif
post #3379 of 3765
Thread Starter 

That's not a bad looking dog. I do like and have worked some decent Olde English, Leavitt, Hermes bulldogs/dogges. Think they're a cool fun breed to screw around with.

 

lefty

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^Not that Bostons are exactly paragons of genetic soundness and good health in their own right.

Lefty (or anyone), how would Bostons stack up in comparison with Frenchies as far as physical soundness and health issues go? Cyrus is certainly going to be my last "superdog," and I like these little guys aesthetically as prospects for a dog of my old age (late 70s), assuming I live that long, but I have concerns about health issues. I have the sense puppy prices for Bostons are appreciably lower than for Frenchies, or is that a past reality? I see many more Frenchies than Bostons around these days, at least in my neighborhood. They sure have exploded in popularity. For much of my life, they were one of the more obscure AKC breeds. I know they are very popular among the gay set. Of course, early on, they were very popular with French whores.
post #3381 of 3765
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I think they're both a nightmare when it comes to health. That's going to be true os any brachycephalic dog. I like the looks of the Frenchie much more and it seems a stouter dog.

 

Cost of Frenchies is still pretty high - $2.5K here in the city.

 

What happened to the idea of a Staffy? Or for that matter an older pit? 

 

lefty

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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

^Not that Bostons are exactly paragons of genetic soundness and good health in their own right.

Lefty (or anyone), how would Bostons stack up in comparison with Frenchies as far as physical soundness and health issues go? Cyrus is certainly going to be my last "superdog," and I like these little guys aesthetically as prospects for a dog of my old age (late 70s), assuming I live that long, but I have concerns about health issues. I have the sense puppy prices for Bostons are appreciably lower than for Frenchies, or is that a past reality? I see many more Frenchies than Bostons around these days, at least in my neighborhood. They sure have exploded in popularity. For much of my life, they were one of the more obscure AKC breeds. I know they are very popular among the gay set. Of course, early on, they were very popular with French whores.



My Boston just turned a year old. He's a little bigger: 26lbs now and probably will hit 30. He's been great health wise. The only health scares were a result of his constant need to chew things for the first 7 months. He threw up a 1in piece of sharp glass to my wife's horror - luckily he didn't need surgery. He snores but only about half of the time. its a legit snore though... almost human in volume.

I like that he's a little bigger, but its an optical illusion because he looks like a small regular boston from a distance (the ones that weigh around 15lbs). so when we meet other bostons they usually are markedly smaller.

I've taken him on 6 mile hikes in upstate NY where we had to scale some steep rock quarries. We took him back there in the middle of winter with a lot of snow and he did fine too. In the summer he's ran back and forth on the beach in 96ºF summer heat chasing two lightning fast jack russells for the whole day.




I guess this breed can be as active as you work them to be. I walk mine 1mile twice a day (early early morning then after dinner). Its kind of tough because I wasn't expecting this dog to be so damn active. Since my wife and I are very busy we have a dog walker and/or puppy day care when we can't walk him ourselves.

Prices from breeders are still cheaper compared to french bulldogs. You can almost say half or even 1/4th the price.

its funny you mentioned about this dog being popular with the gay/lesbian population. i've noticed a lot of lesbians have them here in the city. the gay couples with dogs at the dog runs usually have some sort of huge breed or a rescue.

i did make a parody thread about my dog being gay in dumb threads... but in truth my dog is irrationally confident around other huge dogs. at the dog runs he'll go right up to the scariest looking pitbull rescue dog and start play fighting with it and make him chase him the whole time.

one of my favorite memories this past year was going to Boston. My wife had a work thing there and we went to this cool dog park thats also a war memorial in Cambridge. Randomly 6 other BTs showed up.


Edited by LawrenceMD - 3/4/13 at 6:42pm
post #3383 of 3765
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Originally Posted by lefty View Post

I think they're both a nightmare when it comes to health. That's going to be true os any brachycephalic dog. I like the looks of the Frenchie much more and it seems a stouter dog.


Cost of Frenchies is still pretty high - $2.5K here in the city.

What happened to the idea of a Staffy? Or for that matter an older pit? 


lefty

A friend of my wife got a Boston puppy from a pet store. Rather to my surprise and relief, there have been no health or temperament problems so far. Sometimes I think pet store pups get too much of a bad rap. Some neighbors of mine got a soft-coated wheaten from a pet store, and it has been a very satisfactory dog. About a year ago, they decided to get a second dog, mostly for their daughter. They got a cute little Bichon+something from a rescue agency. It was 11 weeks old. That little dog proved to be just a holy terror--biting family members, dominance marking and whatnot. He made life miserable for the poor Wheaten. Finally, they took him back to the rescue agency after about 10 months. So much for the virtues of mixed breeds. Interestingly, my Cyrus, who normally either likes little dogs and puppies or at worst treats them with lordly disdain, just hated that puppy from the get-go. I suppose it's fanciful to suggest that he sensed an evil energy in that pup, but I can't explain it otherwise.

I think a Staff Bull might be a bit high-energy for me when I am crowding 80. Likewise, a pit, even an older one, might be too much dog, especially for wife (who absolutely refuses to handle Cyrus, even though she is extremely strong, fit and vigorous for a woman of her years). Little pits, I am told by a knowledgeable informant, tend to be "hell on wheels" (to use his term), probably more high-energy than a Staffy. However, if Cyrus has a good long life, he may well outlive me and be passed on to my stepson, who has promised to care for him in such a contingency.

As I think I remarked in this thread a few years ago when I was considering a Staffy, I wasn't too impressed by most of those I saw. The breeders seem bent on taking them down the same sorry path as the English bulldog, with huge heads, squatty bodies and bowed legs. They looked unnatural and unathletic.
post #3384 of 3765
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Friend of mine bought a Frenchie from a NYC pet store. He's probably now over 10K in vet bills. The dog walks in a wheelchair as it is paralyzed from the mid spine back. I've given up on begging him to put the dog down.

 

Bull Terrier? Jaunty enough, but not a high energy dog. Rough and solid. Probably die before you.

 

lefty 

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Friend of mine bought a Frenchie from a NYC pet store. He's probably now over 10K in vet bills. The dog walks in a wheelchair as it is paralyzed from the mid spine back. I've given up on begging him to put the dog down.

Bull Terrier? Jaunty enough, but not a high energy dog. Rough and solid. Probably die before you.

lefty 

I've always thought of Bull Terriers as pretty frisky dogs. Also they run about 60 pounds. If I wanted something that big, I'd just go with a Pit or maybe an Amstaff. The Mini-Bull Terrier might be promising were they not so fraught with health problems.
post #3386 of 3765
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Frisky? Maybe as puppies. As they get older they turn jaunty - more befitting someone at your station in life. American-bred dogs tend to a solid cobby body which obviously limits their athleticism. 

 

Downside: they're strong as hell and willful/stubborn as any dog can be. But in a pinch not a bad little dog to have around.

 

 

lefty

post #3387 of 3765
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Sounds good. Thanks for your input. So, you have a corgi? Pics!

I've ALWAYSSSSS wanted a dog since I was a little kid, but my mom never was a fan of dogs. Ironically, I'm very confident that if we were to 'dump' a puppy on her, she would fall in love with it eventually. Obviously, won't ever do that as there is the risk of the opposite reaction. No dog deserves to be treated as such.

Perhaps once I can finally take care of a dog, I will let my parents baby sit it for a couple days and see how that goes smile.gif.

Pics? OK.









We moved around a lot when I was younger, so this is actually my first dog. We've had him for a year and a bit now, and he's awesome. We have a couple cats as well, and they're...nuts. Yeah, that's a good word for it.
post #3388 of 3765
What a sweet pup - looks like a real character.
post #3389 of 3765
Welp- there goes the neighborhood....

Mike Vick just got himself a Belgian Malinois:
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The American Belgian Malinois Club and Rescue spoke to TMZ, saying it was "very concerned that Vick is allowed to own ANY dog, but the Belgian Malinois is especially problematic. The breed is highly trainable and they could easily become dangerous if they land in the wrong hands... Belgian Malinois—which are frequently used by the military and police—have the same fighting potential as pit bulls."

http://gothamist.com/2013/03/06/michael_vick_his_new_dog_spotted_at.php
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The Malinois has the "same fighting potential" as a pit bull? I find that one very hard to believe. There is a big male Malinois in my neighborhood just spoiling for a fight with Cyrus. As a good citizen, I shall try to prevent this from happening. While I realize that Mals are tough, athletic dogs with tremendous drive, I still don't believe they would compare as fighters with a "dedicated" fighting dog like an APBT or a Tosa.
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