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I agree- I think it comes down to the specific breed as to the effect of breeding for conformation VS utility. I can only speak from my experience with Belgian Tervurens (and some exposure to Groen and Malinois). The breeders view themselves as guardians of the heritage of the working aspect of the dog. The vast majority of breeders I have encountered work very hard to maintain the best qualities of the breed- not just the conformation "looks". They strive for quality working, herding dogs that ALSO do well in the show ring- a well balanced dog.

To that end, they are very protective of their breed, make it hard to even get a puppy unless you agree not to breed. They have vigorous and active rescue orgs, they look out for "bad" breeders. The result is some exceptionally versatile dogs who excel in herding, agility, shutzhund and french ring, tracking, S&R, etc...and do well in the show ring.

This is obviously much easier to do with a relatively uncommon breed such as a Belgian- one only need look at the Golden Retriever or even the GSD to see what can happen. There is a lot of worry already about the Malinois and its growing popularity as a status breed and over focusing purely on protection work and the the spectre of unstable dogs.

This was the case with the breeder we got Albert from. It was similar to converting to Judaism-- we had to visit 3 times approx 4 hours each way before we were allowed to adopt. The first time we were there, the breeder had other breeders there to interview us as well. On site, she had four generations from 14 years on down and had others bring their dogs from the breeder over. After the show days were over, many of the dogs went on to field trials just for the hell of it. She did have the field training background, but the she said the dogs loved doing it. It was clear to me that the breeder truly loved the breed and wanted a well rounded dog.

Incidently, my dog's litter mate was showing at Westminster. She didn't make BOB though. The breeder to this day tells us she thinks she could have taken BOB if Albert wasn't Juan Pelota.
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All our beef aside, awesome dog, Teger. Just read your posts here and that's a great thing you've done -- props.

Anyway, anyone here have any experience volunteering at an animal shelter? I'm really interested in it and would like to hear peoples' experiences.

Would love to have a corgi or maltese some day, once I can actually settle down and take care of one, that is..
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

All our beef aside, awesome dog, Teger. Just read your posts here and that's a great thing you've done -- props.

Anyway, anyone here have any experience volunteering at an animal shelter? I'm really interested in it and would like to hear peoples' experiences.

Would love to have a corgi or maltese some day, once I can actually settle down and take care of one, that is..

Highly recommended. The Wife and I "rescued" our guy from his former breeder, when she couldn't afford to take care of him any more. When you get serious about it, and are able to take care of and give the dog the attention it deserves, I'd recommend keeping tabs on the breed's owner society pages, and contacting breeders for re-homing. Owner's societies often have older, non-puppy, dogs that are available for re-homing or rescue. Similarly with breeders.
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

All our beef aside, awesome dog, Teger. Just read your posts here and that's a great thing you've done -- props.

Anyway, anyone here have any experience volunteering at an animal shelter? I'm really interested in it and would like to hear peoples' experiences.

Would love to have a corgi or maltese some day, once I can actually settle down and take care of one, that is..

I volunteered at a kill shelter for a couple months. Kind of depressing, the dogs got basically a week to get adopted and then they were gone. Almost never saw the same ones twice. It was satisfying when you managed to make a dog comfortable enough to come out their their shell and be sociable and then they got adopted. Pretty much knew you saved that dog's life.


I had to stop because I kept wanting to adopt dogs and wasn't really able to have one at the time.
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Highly recommended. The Wife and I "rescued" our guy from his former breeder, when she couldn't afford to take care of him any more. When you get serious about it, and are able to take care of and give the dog the attention it deserves, I'd recommend keeping tabs on the breed's owner society pages, and contacting breeders for re-homing. Owner's societies often have older, non-puppy, dogs that are available for re-homing or rescue. Similarly with breeders.

Sounds good. Thanks for your input. So, you have a corgi? Pics!

I've ALWAYSSSSS wanted a dog since I was a little kid, but my mom never was a fan of dogs. Ironically, I'm very confident that if we were to 'dump' a puppy on her, she would fall in love with it eventually. Obviously, won't ever do that as there is the risk of the opposite reaction. No dog deserves to be treated as such.

Perhaps once I can finally take care of a dog, I will let my parents baby sit it for a couple days and see how that goes smile.gif.
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I volunteered at a kill shelter for a couple months. Kind of depressing, the dogs got basically a week to get adopted and then they were gone. Almost never saw the same ones twice. It was satisfying when you managed to make a dog comfortable enough to come out their their shell and be sociable and then they got adopted. Pretty much knew you saved that dog's life.


I had to stop because I kept wanting to adopt dogs and wasn't really able to have one at the time.

Ugh.. that sounds like it's very satisfying and very depressing at the same time.. but with more instances of sadness. I don't know if I could deal with the constant sadness of seeing dogs just.. disappear.

Is it selfish of me to not want to volunteer at a kill shelter.. because I don't want to deal with that potential grief? I'm currently writing out an application to my local animal shelter.. frown.gif
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

Ugh.. that sounds like it's very satisfying and very depressing at the same time.. but with more instances of sadness. I don't know if I could deal with the constant sadness of seeing dogs just.. disappear.

Is it selfish of me to not want to volunteer at a kill shelter.. because I don't want to deal with that potential grief? I'm currently writing out an application to my local animal shelter.. frown.gif

There are plenty of non-kill shelters, or kill shelters that are a lot less liberal about application. Seeing them disappear...if you wanted to, you could just tell yourself that they had been adopted and not ask questions. It can still be a tough environment though, lots of scared overwhelmed dogs.

The abuse cases were tough, seeing these dogs that were either obviously terrified of anything to do with humans or had turned vicious. Rabid ones were tough too, especially the sweet domestic dogs.
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Originally Posted by Gibonius View Post

There are plenty of non-kill shelters, or kill shelters that are a lot less liberal about application. Seeing them disappear...if you wanted to, you could just tell yourself that they had been adopted and not ask questions. It can still be a tough environment though, lots of scared overwhelmed dogs.

The abuse cases were tough, seeing these dogs that were either obviously terrified of anything to do with humans or had turned vicious. Rabid ones were tough too, especially the sweet domestic dogs.

Yeah, through a preliminary Google search, I'm finding that there are a lot of shelters that range vastly in terms of niceness, funding, level of care, no-kill vs. kill, etc. Initially I was going to volunteer at the largest facility in my city, but it looks like I need to do some more searching.

Honestly, I don't know what to expect. I'm going into this with an open mind and we'll see what happens.
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gome, is that the same breed as Lawrence's ghey dog -- boston terrier, is it?

looks like he's still a little pup redface.gif
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Originally Posted by GreenFrog View Post

gome, is that the same breed as Lawrence's ghey dog -- boston terrier, is it?

looks like he's still a little pup redface.gif

half boston terrier and half french bulldog. She's nearly 2, so technically not a pup, but she won't get any bigger.

wife just took this pic while i was on a coffee run:

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Thread Starter 

I thought Boston when I saw the first pic. A moment later, Frenchie. Then either a bad Boston or a poor Frenchie.

 

Glad to know I was sort of right.

 

lefty

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on the street, boston owners always think she's a boston terrier, french bulldog owners think she's a frenchie.
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Bear in mind that a great many "no-kill" shelters are able to function as such because they only take dogs that won't be difficult or impossible to place. No few, I gather, do surreptitiously kill any "problem" dogs.

I have heard that some shelters actually have a problem maintaining a supply of adoptable dogs, so import dogs from states where there is an overpopulation problem or even from outside the USA, e.g, Taiwan and Puerto Rico.
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Originally Posted by gomestar View Post

on the street, boston owners always think she's a boston terrier, french bulldog owners think she's a frenchie.

 

There is a "breed" know as the Boston Bull which is a cross between a BT and an English Bulldog or a French Bulldog. Now she can walk a little taller.

 

lefty

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