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post #2281 of 3709
Thread Starter 

Pretty solid advice.

 

There are pet shippers that can help.  These people out of Germany: http://www.petshipping.com/  can handle any european country.

 

lefty

post #2282 of 3709
My father used to tell a story about our dog, John Mosby, who went to Germany with us when my father was stationed there in the early sixties. John was being loaded onto a transport plane when his crate fell and broke. John ran down the tarmak and disappeared. He spent close to a week wandering the German countryside before making his way back to the airport and then back to the states. My father was greatly relieved, he loved that dog as much as any of his children. We often wondered what he did while he was missing.
post #2283 of 3709
^Probably screwed a bunch of German bitches!
post #2284 of 3709
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Originally Posted by curzon View Post

I've done it three times. It's very expensive. Ideally your employer will pay for the relocation, but... And if your dog is too large to fit in a plastic or wire kennel from a pet shop/hardware store be prepared to pay a carpenter to build one - it'll be wood... and it'll be heavy.
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Unless your dog is an absolute monster, it should be able to fit into the largest of the commercially available plastic shipping crates.
post #2285 of 3709
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Originally Posted by JLibourel View Post

Unless your dog is an absolute monster, it should be able to fit into the largest of the commercially available plastic shipping crates.

Key words here being: fit and available.

The load master will ultimately determine whether the pet fits or not. If he refuses, and you're flying now, what do you do?

Had some friends who tried to ship a 120lb retriever to Texas. Squeezed the dog in the largest plastic kennel available, and the load master refused. Fortunately their shipper was able to coordinate the construction of a wooden one. Needed to pay for that. The crate's weight trebled. Needed to pay for that. The dog had to be boarded at a vet for two days whilst the crate was being constructed. Needed to pay for that. Transport to and from the vet. Needed to pay for that. The vet's health certificate expired, so another examination required. Needed to pay for that.

Recognize the knock-on effects. One problem doesn't remain one. It cascades.

Keep this in mind: fly on a Monday. If something goes wrong you have several work days to recover. If your destination is the ME their weekend is different from the rest of the world's. Don't even attempt to do anything during Ramadan. And never depart/arrive on a public holiday. Several countries have public holidays that extend for several days.
Edited by curzon - 10/14/11 at 5:49pm
post #2286 of 3709
Well, I note that the Petsmart "Giant" size crate is 48-inches long by 32-inches wide and 35 inches high. That certainly is more than ample for any Labrador in the world and for all but the most enormous of dogs. They are readily available at Petsmart stores, I do believe. I have one, anyway.
post #2287 of 3709
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Originally Posted by curzon View Post

I've done it three times. It's very expensive.

Curzon thanks for the advice. Due to the short notice period I have been given I have gone through a pet export company. Jeeezus it is expensive. My flight is cheaper than the dogs!! I had quotes from 7 companies, ranging from GBP2890.0(WTF!!!) to GBP970.00. Ended up going for one which was just above a grand, no stop-overs and British Airways, seemed like a sensible choice.

She's a Lab and flying from London to Singapore. Everything will be sorted by the export company and there is no quarantine in Singapore for dogs coming from the UK. Obviously she will have a hard time adjusting to the temperature but at least there won't be any time on her own in kennels.
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Well, I note that the Petsmart "Giant" size crate is 48-inches long by 32-inches wide and 35 inches high....

She will be travelling in a custom built wooden crate. The IATA are pretty ruthless (rightly so) about the crates animals travel in and they have to conform to a long list of stipulations. She has to fly on a cargo plane (in a pressurized and air-conditioned part). I am told that the altitude generally sends the animals to sleep for most of the journey however I am still quite apprehensive about what state she will be in when I pick her up.

I will report back on how it all goes. The company I have used has been great so far - if everything goes to plan I will name them here, think they deserve a bit of free publicity.
post #2288 of 3709
Thread Starter 

If she is a stable dog then she will come out of the crate unfazed. Isn't she still a puppy for the most part?  Surprised you had to get a custom built crate.

 

lefty

 

post #2289 of 3709
She is still a pup - only 6 months old but very stable so not too worried about her.

The wooden crate was actually cheaper than the plastic crates I looked up. 70 quid. As it is made to her measurements I'm pretty happy that she'll be ok in it. On top of that I was not keen on keeping the crate she travelled in, if she does have a hard time of it I didn't want her to have to keep using her travel crate which she could relate to a bad time and find distressing.

I will report back when all is done.
post #2290 of 3709
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Originally Posted by IronRock View Post

She is still a pup - only 6 months old but very stable so not too worried about her.
The wooden crate was actually cheaper than the plastic crates I looked up. 70 quid. As it is made to her measurements I'm pretty happy that she'll be ok in it. On top of that I was not keen on keeping the crate she travelled in, if she does have a hard time of it I didn't want her to have to keep using her travel crate which she could relate to a bad time and find distressing.
I will report back when all is done.

No doubt it will be stressful, hopefully moreso for you than her. Having professionals make the arrangements should help alleviate some of the worry though. I hope it all goes smoothly.
post #2291 of 3709
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Originally Posted by IronRock View Post

She is still a pup - only 6 months old but very stable so not too worried about her.
The wooden crate was actually cheaper than the plastic crates I looked up. 70 quid. As it is made to her measurements I'm pretty happy that she'll be ok in it. On top of that I was not keen on keeping the crate she travelled in, if she does have a hard time of it I didn't want her to have to keep using her travel crate which she could relate to a bad time and find distressing.
I will report back when all is done.

Good luck to you and the pup - everything should be just fine.
post #2292 of 3709
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Man, fuck vets.
First, and not dog related per se, I took my cat in last week. He's an outdoor cat, spending days and nights roaming, eating rats and mice, fighting and drinking from puddles. So I figure that he will get worms. He's been loosing some weight and I wanted a scrip for wormer. No go. I have to come in and pay for a visit b/c they had not seen him for a year. Once there they decide he needs booster vaccinations. Oh, and his teeth are really in need of cleaning and his gums are inflamed, and this tooth is broken and will need to be removed (and to the vet's credit, the gum did look inflamed), and before we do that we need to run blood tests to determine the condition of his organs so we can be sure we can put him under and I'll just take him to the back right now to get started,. . . please do pay 500-700.

Uh, no, fuck that give me the boosters for 20 and the wormer and let me go. I'm not even paying 500 to clean my own fucking teeth.

Then I take my dog to the vet. She's been really short of breath after exercise, panting a lot, and has had a runny nose for awhile. I had not been giving her her heartworm meds and wanted to get her tested. Again, should be pretty simple. Instead they outline about 500 dollars in tests. stool, blood, a xray, a nose scope, and a snot culture. But they are also going to put her on a wormer that will treat worms. So why test her shit for worms that you are going to be treating for anyway? She has no signs of a protozoan and in any case there are wormers that treat them while treating worms and are cheaper than the test, which is not even conclusive, so why bother?

Can't you take a snot sample and test for a fungal infection w/o knocking her out? Can't we proceed from cheaper and easier rather than scatter shot testing that cots hundreds of dollars? And why is it that every vet visit costs 100's, and addresses problems I've never even heard of while the dog I had growing up went to the vet like twice and lived to a ripe old age? My parents have a cat that is about 16, has lived outside her whole life, hunted and fought, and never set foot in a vet's office. arrg.

And after all that she tried to give me the hard sell of spaying. I told her that I was unconvinced that ripping out her internal organs was "fixing" anything. She responded with "well, dogs that are unspayed are almost 100% sure to get breast cancer." I told her I was dubious and let her give me the stink eye.


anyway,
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post #2293 of 3709
I honestly can't think of a profession that is less money driven than veterinary medicine. Your undergrad prerequisite courses are equal or more extensive for vet school than medical school, admission to vet school is tighter than medical school, and the pay after you graduate 4 years later fucking sucks and continues to suck unless you run your own practice (and even then it can suck). You go in to that shit because you love animals. Don't hate on all vets because yours isn't satisfactory.

On a side note, she's right about the high incidence of mammary tumors in unspayed dogs. It's something like 25%, of which about half are malignant.
post #2294 of 3709
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Originally Posted by HgaleK View Post

I honestly can't think of a profession that is less money driven than veterinary medicine. Your undergrad prerequisite courses are equal or more extensive for vet school than medical school, admission to vet school is tighter than medical school, and the pay after you graduate 4 years later fucking sucks and continues to suck unless you run your own practice (and even then it can suck). You go in to that shit because you love animals. Don't hate on all vets because yours isn't satisfactory.
On a side note, she's right about the high incidence of mammary tumors in unspayed dogs. It's something like 25%, of which about half are malignant.

Nope, I think I'm going to continue to hate on what I and others see as a trend towards more and more expensive and extensive treatment for people who think that pets are people in little fur coats.
post #2295 of 3709
Thread Starter 

Send your kids to vet school. It's the only way to come out on top.

 

Is there heartworm out here?  I thought one of the selling points of CA was no bugs.

 

lefty

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