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Lop off a leg.

lefty
post #1427 of 3748
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Did a little more looking at that FB breeder in On and I like a lot of what I see.

She has a blog where she posted this pic of a winning FB from 1910.



I think she's a nice looking dog. What's interesting is this note:

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Salvolatile was a massive bitch of heavy bone, and extremely "bully" in type. The reason for this is simple - she was, in fact, out of an English Bulldog. This is not as unusual as it may seem, as there was a great deal of intermingling while the breed was still in the early stages of recognition. In fact, up until the twenties one could choose to register their dog with the AKC as either a French Bulldog, or a Miniature Bulldog. In many cases, the only difference came down to whether the dog in question had "˜bat ears' or "˜rose ears'.

After Salvolatile's Best of Breed win at the specialty show, a complaint was lodged with the show chairpersons and the judge. Shortly afterwards, her win was overturned and Best of Breed was instead awarded to her Best of Opposite, Nellcote Gamin.

Salvolatile's owner, Mrs. Mary Winthrop Turner, describes this occurrence in an excerpt from her kennel brochure:

"During the Fall, 1910, a controversy re the type and origin of the French Bulldog, was carried on through the columns of many of the dog periodicals. This controversy grew out of the protest which was lodged against the famous French Bull bitch, "SALVOLATILE" of which I was then, and still am, the fortunate owner.

Mr. Maurice Greenwood was the owner of the English Bulldog "Peggie." He took her to the Warren Kennels and she was there bred (so I am informed) by Mr. Purdy, at that time President of the French Bulldog Club of New England, to his dog "Cyrano."

"SALVOLATILE" was first shown in New England where her breeding was no secret. She was next shown at Newark, N.J., where she received winners and finally, at the Hotel Astor, New York April 21, 1910, Specialty Show of the French Bulldog Club of America where she received winners under Mr. James Mortimer.

Shortly after this, a protest was lodged through envy, and it was sustained, and she was disqualified justly, according to the laws of the American Kennel Club."

The dog that won is more of what I would call an inferior bully type:



I looked at the sites you linked to. One had a "click to purchase" button and I would probably avoid them. I did like Stephlyn. A little surprised that a few breeders are feeding raw.

Get in touch with the breeder I suggested and see who they recommend.

lefty
post #1428 of 3748
Jesus those FB's are ugly.
post #1429 of 3748
I don't remember much about genetics/lineage, how do breeders prevent inbreeding over generations? Eventually you reach some breakdown from all the purebloods mixing eventually right?
post #1430 of 3748
Allright, which one of you fruitcakes lost his dog?
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Originally Posted by madstaxbro View Post
I don't remember much about genetics/lineage, how do breeders prevent inbreeding over generations? Eventually you reach some breakdown from all the purebloods mixing eventually right?
All purebred dogs are inbred. Some more tightly than others on big winning sires or lines which created strong type when it was needed (early days of dog shows) but also kept pushing certain breeds down an ever narrowing corridor. In the old days you had to have a very clear mind about who and what was in your ped, and how to use inbreeding and line breeding to reveal the good and the bad. Once you had a sense of what a dog throws you could then increase or decrease his influence and his ancestors influence on your line. But it was a lot of paper work. You did have Wright’s Coefficient of Inbreeding: - and now you have computers to sort it all out. Here's a layman's explanation:
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It is the probability that a homozygous gene pair will be identical by descent from both sides of a pedigree. In the formula, FX is your dog’s COI, FA is that of the ancestor common to both sides of the pedigree. n1 and n2 are the numbers of generations on each side between your dog and that ancestor. In other words, if your dog Flux is a double-grandson of FAbulous it tells you how likely it is you can get exactly the same gene passed down to Flux through each of his parents. (In case you are wondering, the probability is 12.5%.) If FAbulous happened to be a Collie Eye Anomaly carrier, Flux would have a 12.5%, or a one in eight chance, of having CEA thanks to Old Granddad. Total actual risk would be dependent on whether there were any other carrier or affected individuals in the remainder of the pedigree, but whatever that might be, it is evident that FAbulous provided a significant part of it.
So now you can enter in two dogs names and have the ped search engines scour back 5 or 6 generations to determine your dogs COI. Breeding dogs is easy; breeding good dogs is a little more difficult. To answer your other question, it takes about three generations for average breeds to completely lose type and take the dogs into their "natural" state or the Pariah dog. lefty
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This guy is a husky x border collie mix. I wish his fur was a bit thicker but it's okay. I like his "sleek spy" look. He really has a keen ear and eye.. one of our most intelligent dogs. Very clever one too. We had to put him on the leash cause the garbage truck was out and whenever the garbage truck comes by he goes haywire. This guy eats anything.. incredible speed when he absolutely bolts it. He catches birds and rabbits most of the time.
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This girl is a shih tzu x polmeranian. She is one of the most noisiest dogs we have. Also, she feels an attachment to her ball. I don't know what it is with the ball but whenever it rolls under the couch or behind the TV all hell breaks loose. She barks and barks until she gets it.. and she claws at the couch. Is there anyway to calm her down?
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We also have a labrador x boxer mix. I have no recent videos of her, but i will get a few done soon. This is our brightest dog. Our actual watch dog. She's never off the job to make sure we're all okay. A very territorial dog I must say. She loves going out for walks, running through the park, and swimming.

It's funny cause whenever one of the dogs is inside, the others share the work. Like if the Lab is inside, then the Husky would do all of the barking and protecting. The same can't be said about the Shih Tzu though, haha.
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This girl is a shih tzu x polmeranian. She is one of the most noisiest dogs we have. Also, she feels an attachment to her ball. I don't know what it is with the ball but whenever it rolls under the couch or behind the TV all hell breaks loose. She barks and barks until she gets it.. and she claws at the couch. Is there anyway to calm her down?


Reward her with the ball only when she's calm. Progress from the ball in hand, to the floor, to under the sofa.

lefty
post #1434 of 3748
While we're posting vids - took the dog to work the other day and let her play with my boss's pup: Got in a good whack there at the end...
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^^^ Did not load.
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^Thx...should be working now (is for me, at least)
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Got in a good whack there at the end...

"Lab mix" for the win.

lefty
post #1438 of 3748
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Got in a good whack there at the end...
Looks like she got a good whack in there at the beginning as well.
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clown car for a vagina....17 puppies in one litter...
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"Lab mix" for the win.

lefty

Our joking about her breed aside, she has turned into much more of a guard dog than would have been expected. I'm pretty sure the office mailman will knock next time.
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