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Is anyone else taking perverse pleasure in the belly flop the most expensive sports team in history -- predicted by many to win the World Series this year -- is doing right now?  Here is a great article describing the fall of the Yankees.
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I am quite enjoying it. And it makes it all the more likely that Randy Johnson will go into the Hall of Fame as a Diamondback. Bradford
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Season's still young. My boss is a Yankee fan. He thinks their problem is their pitching. I don't really care because I've stopped following baseball. Hate the IBB.
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Is anyone else taking perverse pleasure in the belly flop the most expensive sports team in history -- predicted by many to win the World Series this year -- is doing right now?  Here is a great article describing the fall of the Yankees.
No. Not at all. A Red Sox fan would never want to see the Yanks have a losing Aprl. As soon as Shef shaves off his pervy moustache, you guys should do better.
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Their bullpen sucks and they're not hitting...it's an old team. They've had a ton of terrible free agent siginings over the last couple of years: Kevin Brown, Giambi, the list goes on and on. Guys like Posada and Bernie are old and worn-down. Although I think A-Rod gets criticized too much; he's a terrific player, he just needs to step up in the big games. I'm giving the Yanks another month before I start pushing the panic button. (I've been to 2 games already, both losses.) I've got tickets to games in August and September, so I'm trying to remain optimistic. It's no fun schlepping up to the Bronx to see a last-place team.
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Season's still young.  My boss is a Yankee fan.  He thinks their problem is their pitching.  I don't really care because I've stopped following baseball.  Hate the IBB.
You stopped following baseball because of intentional walks?
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Hate the IBB.
You stopped following baseball because of intentional walks?[/quote] Sounds like something from the mind of Larry David.
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I LOVE IT koji
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"You stopped following baseball because of intentional walks?" Yep. And it is a boring "sport." I use that word with quotes because it is the only one of the big three where the other team can prevent a player from doing what he's paid to do. And, it is the coward's way out. The Angels, by and large, didn't do it to Bonds and they won. Clemens didn't do it and he struck Bonds out. It's gutless and the penalty is not harsh enough. I became a Giants fan because of Mays. And I stopped following baseball because of what has become a bunch of gutless whining players who take the easy way out. And all I know is that Bob Gibson, like Clemens (a throwback if there ever was one) would NEVER have backed down from a challenge and would NEVER have walked Barry intentionally. Heck, Gibson used to yell at the manager and give him the evil eye when he'd go to the mound to pull him. The IBB stinks. Baseball is a coward's "sport."
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What about intentional fouls in basketball? Or taking a knee in football? Intentional walks are part of the game and have been forever. Only Barry Bonds apologists would take such a severe position.
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"What about intentional fouls in basketball? Or taking a knee in football? Intentional walks are part of the game " Exactly. You just made my argument that the "game" is inherently flawed. They don't have to eliminate the IBB entirely. Maybe they should allow a team to only use it once for any single batter. And it certainly is NOT the same as the intentional foul. Basketball addressed this problem by making the penalty for fouling off the ball in the last two minutes really harsh. Besides, at least the player who's fouled gets a chance to do what he's paid to do -- score. And, in football, intentionally downing the ball is rarely used. And not nearly as often nor in such a cowardly way as these pansy pitchers are doing with Bonds. They walk him with no one on and two outs. And in other non-strategic situations. Simply because they're afraid to challenge him. It's boring. And, every fan who has to pay to see it should ask for a refund.
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Baseball is all of a sudden not a "sport" because of strategy? That's ridiculous. In fact, I think baseball is BETTER because of the IBB. It's all a part of the intellectual level of the game, about numbers and matchups and history and calculated risk. Should Bonds be considered a coward because of the armor he wears to the plate? "A bunch of gutless whining players who take the easy way out." Sure, there are a bunch of lazy players in baseball, but I doubt it's any higher than in basketball or football. If you don't like the game, fine, don't watch, but this is an odd reason. The number of exceptional, professional, unbelievably talented players in the game now is astonishing. And as baseball is an individual contest within a team game, a lazy player should have less impact on watching the game. A shiftless left fielder, for example isn't going to bother me unless he's in on the play (or positioned poorly). Don't let a few bad apples spoil the bunch.
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And not nearly as often nor in such a cowardly way as these pansy pitchers are doing with Bonds.
One other point, it's not the pitcher who is decided to walk bonds intentionally. Pitchers love the challenge. I think there's nothing they'd rather do then try to smoke one by him. It's the managers calling for the IBB.
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chorse: Not an odd reason at all. Only one that is added to many others. Baseball is very slow and boring. And, when they walk a guy just because they're afraid to challenge him, then it becomes even more boring. And, I used to watch baseball for years. I remember those players from the 60s NEVER giving in to the top batters. Gibson, Drysdale, Koufax. Sure, once in a while they IBB'd someone. But not nearly as often as today's pansies. Finally, it's not like I'm the only one with this criticism of the IBB. I've read several articles which criticized it and called for changes. What exactly would be wrong about changing it to only one use per batter per game? If it really is such a big and important part of strategy, then it should only be needed in strategic points in the game. A change like this would force them to use it at those times only. Now, they walk Bonds in the first inning, when the game is definitely not at a strategic point. Simply because they have no courage. It stinks.
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I'd argue that baseball is the most cerebral sport. It's the only major pro sport that includes a constant intellectual battle along side some fairly stunning athletic feats. Watch a nine- or ten-pitch at bat someday; really watch it. Pay attention to the pitch sequence and how the pitcher and catcher try to fool a batter. All those foul balls aren't necessarily "misses" by the batter, either. He's just keeping the at-bat alive, fouling off a near strike and trying to catch the pitcher in a mistake. I've loved baseball since forever. I do, however, hate the Yankees but I think Jeter is one of the all-time greats. There are many baseball players, Bonds among them, who I detest. And the steroid thing has me wondering how much longer I can remain a fan of the game.
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