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(matadorpoeta @ May 05 2005,18:20) at least '16 candles' had long duck dong.
Now, that movie was incredibly racist with that character with his chop suey english and total emmasculation of asian males. I hope today's movies wouldn't be allowed to get away with such imagery. Frankly, I never understood the appeal of any of John Hughes' work. Then again, his movies were geared towards a female audience. Definitely, not a guy movie unless you had to watch it on a date to showcase your 'sensitivity'.
Emmasculation of asian males?? Didn't he get laid in that movie? Why are people so sensetive about their race? I'm a white man in America that doesn't fit into any stereotypical niche, but I don't cry everytime a white man is portrayed in a negative sterotypical way...instead I laugh. Eric
post #47 of 75
How has nobody yet mentioned Real Genius?
post #48 of 75
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How has nobody yet mentioned Real Genius?
that was super-popular when i was at MIT in the late '80's. more '80's cheese: some kind of wonderful nightmare on elm street beetlejuice (maybe somebody's mentioned it already...i didn't re-read the thread. also was it 80's or 90's...it's starting to run together for me now) risky business (probably been covered already as well) and for the chicks: a room with a view +++edit: oh, also let me add: Dune (the one with kyle maclachlan, sting, and patrick stewart)
post #49 of 75
Some great movies have been suggested, but you are all wrong, it is "The Thing"
post #50 of 75
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(christian @ May 06 2005,16:35)
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Originally Posted by matadorpoeta,May 05 2005,18:20
at least '16 candles' had long duck dong.
Now, that movie was incredibly racist with that character with his chop suey english and total emmasculation of asian males. I hope today's movies wouldn't be allowed to get away with such imagery. Frankly, I never understood the appeal of any of John Hughes' work. Then again, his movies were geared towards a female audience. Definitely, not a guy movie unless you had to watch it on a date to showcase your 'sensitivity'.
Emmasculation of asian males??  Didn't he get laid in that movie?  Why are people so sensetive about their race?  I'm a white man in America that doesn't fit into any stereotypical niche, but I don't cry everytime a white man is portrayed in a negative sterotypical way...instead I laugh. Eric
Eric, You just don't get it. I'm shaking my head in dissappointment. To be fair, I can't really tell if you're a full blown racist/ skinhead or simply ignorant. Do you have any more comments you'd like to add to the Chan thread about the inherent inferiority of Asians? It perturbs me that you as a white man get to decide what I, as an asian male, find racist. Do you also tell African Americans that Birth of a Nation wasn't racist to you, so why should they complain about it? I have caucasian friends who didn't realize how insensitive that role when it was first released, but if they watch it today, they wince in recognition of how f'ed up that character was. Yes, there are depictions of stupid white people in the media such as Archie Bunker, George Costanza, etc.... But, for every negative portrayal of a white man, there are at least three cool heroic roles to balance that image. Hence, there really isn't a negative sterotypical view of white men. This diversity of roles is missing for Asian Males. Instead, we are classified into the asexual roles of comedic morons like Long Dong, robotic businessmen, etc.. Asian male sexuality is either negative or non-existent where they're almost never paired up with women of any race. Asian males get the scraps of media exposure, and that's why there's so much cultural signifigance to characters like Long Dong. That's all America ever sees; think about the signifigance for this to most of america which doesn't interact with asians. Until very, very recently, the most prominent asian images in the media had been images of bucktoothed, slant eyed japs, that caucasian actor playing an asian male in the movie 'breakfast with tiffany', the vietnamese as vicious cheaters who wouldn't fight fair in those movies about the vietnam war, and long dong in 'sixteen candles'. Yes, in the movie, Long Dong was not portrayed in a postive virile light. The Molly Ringwald character was horrifed and disgusted by Dong's advances toward her. And, yes, he did end up hooking up with a girl. But, she was portrayed as rather unattractive and it was a fluke that he hooked up with her. Despite the fact that she was that unattractive, LD is supposed to be happy and surprised that he was able to get a girl out of his league, even though she was unattractive. Think of the last time you saw an asian male play a strong leading role who got the girl in the end. In Romeo Must Die, Jet Li doesn't even get to kiss the girl. Nor did Chow Yuan Fat or Jackie Chan ever get to kiss, much less have sex with the women in their movies. Contrast this with a Brad Pitt movie. When's the last time he didn't get to kiss the girl, or do more. Truly, the worst case was Showdown in Little Tokyo, where Dolph Lundgreen gets to share a nude bath with Tia Carrere while his sidekick, Brandon Lee, sleeps alone. Then, Brandon Lee actually tells Lundgren, "You have the biggest dick I've ever seen on a male." It perpuatates the myth that asian dicks are so tiny that we can't satisfy asian women and why asian women will automatically fall in love and sacrifice themselves for every gaijin or gwailo which you see repeated in movies about asia.
post #51 of 75
You know, that reminds me -- no one's nominated the Goonies for best 80s film.
post #52 of 75
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You know, that reminds me -- no one's nominated the Goonies for best 80s film.
with good reason - The Lost Boys was ten times better.
post #53 of 75
This of course is not my prefecture of knowledge. However IMMSMC at the time these films came out, the Asians, with the Japanese "in the van" as they say (IMMSMC) appeared to be about to purchase the whole of the United States. The Rising Sun was on the cusp of eclipsing the Stars and Stripes, dare I say. Thus, may not all these derogatory portrayals of awkward young men of phallic nomenclature and absurd computer skill have been some manifestation of the immense fear and incipient (and likely misguided) feeling of inferiority on the Americans' part? In such a way, I would almost take it as a sign of respect for our power rather than as overt racist propaganda, as Christian has proposed.
post #54 of 75
the correct answer: Valley Girl
post #55 of 75
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the correct answer: Valley Girl
best soundtrack, maybe. I dunno about best movie.
post #56 of 75
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This of course is not my prefecture of knowledge.  However IMMSMC at the time these films came out, the Asians, with the Japanese "in the van" as they say (IMMSMC) appeared to be about to purchase the whole of the United States.  The Rising Sun was on the cusp of eclipsing the Stars and Stripes, dare I say.  Thus, may not all these derogatory portrayals of awkward young men of phallic nomenclature and absurd computer skill have been some manifestation of the immense fear and incipient (and likely misguided) feeling of inferiority on the Americans' part?  In such a way,  I would almost take it as a sign of respect for our power rather than as overt racist propaganda, as Christian has proposed.
Kaga, That's an interesting and novel interpretation. So, you think that such an emmasculation neutered an increasingly economically group such as the Japanese, who would otherwise serve as a legitimate sexual threat to the white americans? It does make sense where a man's earning power is an important factor in how women judge and evaluate potential mates. In the 90s, when such fear of a yellow peril had subsided, you still had only asexual roles for asian stars such as Jet Li and Chow Yun Fat where they were not allowed to be woo the women. But, at least, they were not held up to the ridicule of the Long Dong character. Do you think we'll have a return of such characterization as america begins to clash with an increasingly powerful, assertive China in the Pacific and as american jobs are outsourced to China? Maybe, we've already seen a return with that racially offensive movie Dumb and Dumberer. Or, maybe, we'll see a return to such sterotype standbys such as the evil yellow businessman/ trade federation. As much as I despise Gedee Watanabee for acting as the uncle tom and selling out by taking that role, I despise the entertainment industry even more which did not offer him any other roles except those the racially insensitive roles like Long Dong.
post #57 of 75
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[Do you think we'll have a return of such characterization as america begins to clash with an increasingly powerful, assertive China in the Pacific and as american jobs are outsourced to China? Maybe, we've already seen a return with that racially offensive movie Dumb and Dumberer.
Just a nitpick_ I'd say Dumb and Dumberer was intellectually and artistically offensive too, in that its sheer lack of any merit on any level could embitter any cinemagoer. Still I bet it was better than Pearl Harbor because it didn't have Ben Affleck.
post #58 of 75
I'll second a nomination for Lost Boys and add a nomination for "Do the Right Thing" not only one of the best of the eighties but I'd say a top 50 all time. E
post #59 of 75
Die Hard
post #60 of 75
anybody remember "Revenge of the Nerds?" They had Poindexter on the violin. . .
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