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post #16 of 43
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Not just you -- I'm all for tiny waists, but not if it comes along with a bony back and no . . . well, you know . . .
Yep.  If you can palm it, it's not attractive.
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If they expand the BG franchise into, let's say, 5 additional key markets (e.g. Chicago, SF, DC, Atlanta, and Dallas), how is that going to hurt them, assuming they hit their profitability targets in those markets? I suppose you mean that the cache of BG being a NY exclusive will be tarnished somewhat, but if I'm an executive, I'd rather have 4 X earnings rather than 1 X cache.
One of the NMs will be in Los Angeles--in an upscale Woodland Hills (southwest San Fernando Valley) shopping mall, if the signs on the site are to be believed.
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And is it just me, but do really, really thin women turn anybody a little off?
I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't think it's possible for a woman to be too thin and I find thin waists and bony backs a major turn-on. I met one this past weekend at a wedding and was instantly smitten.
post #19 of 43
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Originally Posted by LA Guy,May 02 2005,09:02
I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't think it's possible for a woman to be too thin
I am with you.  Not sure I have ever met a "too skinny" woman either. With regard to the Warbug Pincus and TPG acquisition of Nieman Marcus, apparently they are paying 9 times EBITDA.....that seems rather steep to me.
post #20 of 43
i'll take curves any day.
post #21 of 43
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Originally Posted by discostu004,May 02 2005,08:38
And is it just me, but do really, really thin women turn anybody a little off?
Without a doubt. Getting off topic a bit, but this is an area where these women believe "more is better," the "more" here meaning "more thin." However, if they'd bother looking at magazines that men read (SI swimsuit, Playboy, etc), they'd see what the typical Western man likes (though Playboy has really slathered on the makeup the last handful of years).
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They definately need to keep BG a Manhattan exclusive.  Cheapening the name by overexpansion can only hurt them.
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I disagree. Who is it going to hurt? And by "hurt" what do you mean? If they expand the BG franchise into, let's say, 5 additional key markets (e.g. Chicago, SF, DC, Atlanta, and Dallas), how is that going to hurt them, assuming they hit their profitability targets in those markets? I suppose you mean that the cache of BG being a NY exclusive will be tarnished somewhat, but if I'm an executive, I'd rather have 4 X earnings rather than 1 X cache.
For one thing, seeing as NM already has stores in Chicago, SF, DC, Atlanta, and Dallas, the thing an expanded BG will hurt is Neiman Marcus stores.  It's called canibalization.  NM and BG are not different enough to face off with each other in most cities.  The market isn't big enough to justify it. BTW, I vote for curves. There's more to hold onto
post #23 of 43
I've never been to the BG store, although I've visited a few NMs. How different are they really? The websites are essentially identical.
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I've never been to the BG store, although I've visited a few NMs. How different are they really? The websites are essentially identical.
NM is more department store, while BG is a specialty store. BG has sales only 2x a year. They have become more identical in the past few years, because NM bought BG.
post #25 of 43
Considering that one of the players here is Fort Worth-based Texas Pacific, I think the objective is simply adding NM to their collection of highly-profitable operations, or undervalued companies which can be turned more profitable. Burger King is a good example of a revival engendered by a TP take-over. I suspect they will leave things as they are other than expanding in to such markets as Seattle, which has already been mentioned. As another Texas poster wrote, Nordstrom here is very mid-range and unexciting. But much friendlier customer service than NM which, at least in a couple of the Dallas stores, I find to be pushy and then stand-offish if you don't buy. I was looking at a Charvet tie and clerk practically had it wrapped up while I was still pondering. Didn't buy it and boy did she drop me in a hurry. Ned Soltz
post #26 of 43
The most common answer when judging attractiveness concerning bodies is "in shape," by a huge margin. The most desirable waist/hip ratio for women is 0.7 and for men it is 0.9. Most men don't like Clarissa Flockhart, and most women do not like Ahnolds. And I'm all about context really. Sometimes a really skinny woman is attractive, but for the most part nothing beats a nice hourglass shape with toned muscles. I also tend to find very interesting things attractive .. subtle imperfections you might say, like one eye that seems a little tiny bit more closed than the other, slightly crooked teeth, a little tiny belly on an otherwise skinny woman... I dig it.
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... And I'm all about context really...
Really?
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i'll take curves any day.
Fer real. Not fat, mind you - but a woman who actually looks ike a woman (proportionate breasts, hips, etc...), not like some fourteen year old boy with breasts. That is just a little wierd. I don't know, I knew a fair number of women like this. They are generally not much fun (the real athletes being the exceptions, and they generally have real muscles, i.e. aren't just skinny).
post #29 of 43
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(LA Guy @ May 02 2005,09:02) And is it just me, but do really, really thin women turn anybody a little off?
I know I'm probably in the minority here, but I don't think it's possible for a woman to be too thin and I find thin waists and bony backs a major turn-on.  I met one this past weekend at a wedding and was instantly smitten.
I'm right there with you. Give me one with the ass of a 12 yr old boy. Plenty of those women every day on Madison.
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(LA Guy @ May 02 2005,09:02)
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Originally Posted by discostu004,May 02 2005,08:38
And is it just me, but do really, really thin women turn anybody a little off?
Without a doubt. Getting off topic a bit, but this is an area where these women believe "more is better," the "more" here meaning "more thin." However, if they'd bother looking at magazines that men read (SI swimsuit, Playboy, etc), they'd see what the typical Western man likes (though Playboy has really slathered on the makeup the last handful of years).
I am old friends with one of the SI models and the camera really does add 10 pounds. She is really skinny in person and fills out the bathing suits in SI.
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