The pair I saw were consigned by a gentleman who obviously loved to buy top end shoes. There was a huge assortment - Lobb, Barrett, Andrea Santoni, Weston etc. Unfortunately he was not as passionate about maintaining them. They weren't ruined but would have been had he kept them longer. I don't think he got them on the West Coast though. I haven't seen them for sale in any of the top-end stores. Maybe he got them on a trip to Rome? And Bengal Stripe is right as usual. It's great having him around. Those loafers were from the ready-to-wear line. They were very well made for ready-to-wear but certainly not bespoke.