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Did the fit the American pattern pants change in the last year or two? A previous pair in tweed fit me great without tailoring. A recent pair of in fresco wool need to be slimmed down in the leg and seat.

The old Italian pattern from a year was also way too tight in the seat and too low rise for me.
post #4487 of 4498
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Originally Posted by sean anon View Post

Did the fit the American pattern pants change in the last year or two? A previous pair in tweed fit me great without tailoring. A recent pair of in fresco wool need to be slimmed down in the leg and seat.

The old Italian pattern from a year was also way too tight in the seat and too low rise for me.
Thicker fabric fits slim. Thus flannel/ tweed fits slimmer than worsted wool or any lighter fabric.
post #4488 of 4498
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Thicker fabric fits slim. Thus flannel/ tweed fits slimmer than worsted wool or any lighter fabric.

 

It's more than that.  I took in a pair of tropical wool pants yesterday to get the legs slimmed to match my flannel pants (both American cut).  My tailor said there was a 2 inch difference in the thigh and 1.5 inch difference in the knees and leg opening.  That's more than fabric.

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Thicker fabric fits slim. Thus flannel/ tweed fits slimmer than worsted wool or any lighter fabric.

I am sure that is true but I measured the leg opening today


Old tweeds 16.5
New frescas 18

This seems a less slim version
post #4490 of 4498
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

It's more than that.  I took in a pair of tropical wool pants yesterday to get the legs slimmed to match my flannel pants (both American cut).  My tailor said there was a 2 inch difference in the thigh and 1.5 inch difference in the knees and leg opening.  That's more than fabric.

So it seems it is a variation between models and not a change in the pattern

Is the newer Italian pants less slim? The old was way too tight in the seat and low rise for me

Too bad the tweed I got in the American pattern the first time were perfect
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Originally Posted by New Shoes1 View Post

It's more than that.  I took in a pair of tropical wool pants yesterday to get the legs slimmed to match my flannel pants (both American cut).  My tailor said there was a 2 inch difference in the thigh and 1.5 inch difference in the knees and leg opening.  That's more than fabric.

This is my experience as well. I have the American made lightweight wool trousers from two summers ago and the tropical wool trousers from this season as well as a number of heavier weight flannels etc.. in between (probably about 6 pairs of the American made trousers total), and the newer batch of the American made trousers are much more generous throughout. Either intentionally or unintentionally, the cut was definitely changed without notice.
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This is my experience as well. I have the American made lightweight wool trousers from two summers ago and the tropical wool trousers from this season as well as a number of heavier weight flannels etc.. in between (probably about 6 pairs of the American made trousers total), and the newer batch of the American made trousers are much more generous throughout. Either intentionally or unintentionally, the cut was definitely changed without notice.


I'd like to know because the price with an extra $50 for tailoring is not a good value for me
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Are people finding differences from the printed measurements available on line or from earlier versions? Just curious.

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Are people finding differences from the printed measurements available on line or from earlier versions? Just curious.

I guess you could state both. Measurements on-line match an older pair. Newer pairs seem to be the anomolay. Perhaps one of his suppliers got the pattern wrong. Considering the measurements on-line are hardly excessively slim I have to doubt he purposefully changed these
post #4495 of 4498

I'm away from the two pairs of HYs I have in USA fit but would be happy to post measurements (they were bought last season, 32s). But if anyone can do a measurement as Jamison does with comparison that might be of use to users here, since this is it seems the only source of info at this point about HY products.

 

I have one of the old Italians and find that they fit slimmer than the current USAs I have, but like both fits. For linens, you might want to go a bit more generous anyway, to help deal with the heat of summer.

 

More soon...

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Edit: Sold...that was fast

 

I have a pair of the ever popular gray hopsack pants in size 32 (American made) that I am selling.  The 32 is too small and I am past the return policy date.  This size is sold out on the website and Jamison has already done one restock...meaning he may not do a third.  

 

They are new with legs still unhemmed.  

 

Retail for $195 on his site.  I'll take $150 shipped in US.  Add on the shipping price delta for overseas.  

 


Edited by europrep - 7/14/14 at 9:54am
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Wearing those right now...highly recommended. I'm actually considering buying those from you and having two pairs.
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Wearing those right now...highly recommended. I'm actually considering buying those from you and having two pairs.

 

sale pending...i'll let you know if it falls through

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