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Originally Posted by chronoaug

Sounds like the opposite of entertaining

Originally Posted by Teger

it's because he's asian. we've discussed this before and I'm sure a bunch of people will come in and post how the original skinhead movement wasn't about white power, but there's always been a strong line of racism in the british nationalism movements. even if that's all true it doesn't change the fact that specific pieces of clothing have certain connotations, and in america today the skinhead look is associated with neo-nazis. one of the reasons we all love jeans so much is they're an iconic part of our cultural heritage. they represent all the positive aspects of 'america'- a glamorizing the past while ignoring all of the horrid bits of our early national history. unfortunately the skinhead look occupies an opposing niche today. people on this board seem to forget that we all function in a real world, and certain things aren't palatable to the average person. it's funny that so many people here reject the idea of obvious branding, but the clothing we wear is a form of branding too. black cherries screams 'I hate minorities and jews and voted for david duke'

Originally Posted by Teger

ugh i need to sleep but for some reason can't. i always find the japanesed denim/american fetishization hilarious. i need to write a really good paper about this for a history class one day. do they realize how horrible the 1880s-1930s were in america? that the earliest wearers of jeans were basically white trash/immigrants suckered into traveling to the west, who eked out a pathetic, horrible existence? that thousands of them starved to death or froze in alaska? and don't even get me started on the military repro stuff. we killed millions of your people in firebombs, and you're wearing the jackets the pilots wore. ugh have some national identity.

Originally Posted by Teger

if you're at all interested in the subject you should read pattern recognition by william gibson. it's an ok book, but he gives a pretty interesting commentary on the ideas of branding and obsessive japanese reproduction efforts

Originally Posted by chronoaug

Sounds like the opposite of entertaining

Originally Posted by chronoaug

Sounds like the opposite of entertaining

Originally Posted by BubblyMasquerade

sometimes i don't understand this forum.

hummingbird's fit is nothing special.

Originally Posted by Teger

it's because he's asian. we've discussed this before and I'm sure a bunch of people will come in and post how the original skinhead movement wasn't about white power, but there's always been a strong line of racism in the british nationalism movements. even if that's all true it doesn't change the fact that specific pieces of clothing have certain connotations, and in america today the skinhead look is associated with neo-nazis. one of the reasons we all love jeans so much is they're an iconic part of our cultural heritage. they represent all the positive aspects of 'america'- a glamorizing the past while ignoring all of the horrid bits of our early national history. unfortunately the skinhead look occupies an opposing niche today. people on this board seem to forget that we all function in a real world, and certain things aren't palatable to the average person. it's funny that so many people here reject the idea of obvious branding, but the clothing we wear is a form of branding too. black cherries screams 'I hate minorities and jews and voted for david duke'

Originally Posted by Threak

^+1. Quality photography and designer/brand names are what get the most praise here, and hummingbird has both.

Originally Posted by mulansauce

I'm an authoirty on these matters, as I happen to have a black friend.