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post #31 of 44
2/26/09 at 2:17pm
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Couldn't agree more. I've always found lunches to be a good alternative to squats.

Likewise, dinners are a good alternative to deadlifts.

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post #32 of 44
2/26/09 at 2:21pm
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You can fuck up your hips and back just as easily on the leg press as you can fuck up your back squatting.

I wouldn't say just as easily, but it is definitely true that while machines look foolproof with a locked ROM, they all require correct technique.
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post #33 of 44
2/26/09 at 2:22pm
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You can fuck up your hips and back just as easily on the leg press as you can fuck up your back squatting.
won't get into an argument over the semantics of this, but would dispute the notion of "just as easily". I would never say it is "impossible to hurt yourself on a leg press" - of course not...but would say that the potential for harm incurred in squatting is greater. Anyhow, means little to me...as you were gents
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post #34 of 44
2/26/09 at 2:31pm
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Couldn't agree more. I've always found lunches to be a good alternative to squats.

Likewise, dinners are a good alternative to deadlifts.



I like this front squat idea. I'll try that the next time I'm at the gym.
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post #35 of 44
2/26/09 at 3:23pm
Well, I meant bad form is bad form and can lead to injury whatever lift you are attempting. I was stupid trying to do military presses years ago, and I'm still paying for it with a nice rotator cuff injury.

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won't get into an argument over the semantics of this, but would dispute the notion of "just as easily". I would never say it is "impossible to hurt yourself on a leg press" - of course not...but would say that the potential for harm incurred in squatting is greater. Anyhow, means little to me...as you were gents
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post #36 of 44
2/26/09 at 7:53pm
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By doing it, wouldn't it make him lean forward more? Give him help, not make it worse.
No, you're an idiot.
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Front squats will neglect your hamstrings
It's pretty dependent on anthropometry (again), but they tend to keep the quag:ham strength ratio closer to 1:1 as compared with back squats for most people.
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post #37 of 44
2/26/09 at 8:17pm
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Give him help, not make it worse.

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No, you're an idiot.
If you kids don't stop fighting back there we're going to turn this thread around and go home.
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post #38 of 44
2/26/09 at 8:58pm
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If you kids don't stop fighting back there we're going to turn this thread around and go home.
Really though, he's just an idiot. Knees forward means hips are further forward and the resistance won't have to be as far forward as a result (in other words, less hip extension).
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post #39 of 44
2/26/09 at 10:53pm
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Really though, he's just an idiot. Knees forward means hips are further forward and the resistance won't have to be as far forward as a result (in other words, less hip extension).

Lean forward + heel elevated = bar more forward = you will topple!
Have you ever done a squat before in your entire life, Mr personal trainer?

Notice my restraint in not unleashing a string of personal insults on you (which is what you richly deserve) like what you did.

Ban me? Ban you!
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post #40 of 44
2/26/09 at 11:15pm
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Split step squats, lunches!!!!!!, single leg press/leg press

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post #41 of 44
2/27/09 at 1:36am
If you are leaning forward, it's highly likely you have hamstring flexibility issues. This in combination with not knowing how to correctly squat equals the leaning forward effect you are experiencing. If you're back is healthy, try to work on your flexibility (it's not that hard) and work on perfecting the squat movement. I see many people make this critical mistake, they initiate the move by bending their knees. I would be this is how you think a squat is done? The key should be to push your hips back and down as if you were sitting nice and slow into a seat. It's a change in mindset, and will likely help you in moving the knees forward.

Hamstring flexibility can be significantly improved after a two week period of daily stretching. Don't neglect this.
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post #42 of 44
2/27/09 at 2:24am
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Lean forward + heel elevated = bar more forward = you will topple!
Have you ever done a squat before in your entire life, Mr personal trainer?

It means the bar is initially more forward and therefore the back can remain more upright. The femur (especially in taller individuals) is longer than the tibia, so the hips travel back less the more the knees are forward. Put on a pair of your mom's 4" black stilettos that I love and try to do squats in them and you'll see the difference.
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post #43 of 44
3/1/09 at 12:05pm
While no comparison to squats for raw resistance, I was in a hotel gym this morning, and did 15 mins on the rowing machine.....dear God my quads....I could barely walk afterwards. Serious jellolegs.
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post #44 of 44
3/1/09 at 3:11pm
I'll second the earlier recommendations for lunges as a general alternative to squat.
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