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post #31 of 52
I can't seem to find the Renavottor~ at Franco's? Is it the same as the Reptile Cleaner? http://www.francos.com/items/item.asp?sku5=36067
post #32 of 52
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I can't seem to find the Renavottor~ at Franco's? Is it the same as the Reptile Cleaner? http://www.francos.com/items/item.asp?sku5=36067
No, this is the stuff: http://www.valmour.fr/cleaning-produ...edaille-dor,47 I can't see it anywhere at Francos.
post #33 of 52
Thanks for the interest, all!

Our Fall stock order for this market (both retail and wholesale) ran into some shipping problems and is now due in around 4 weeks, confirmed from France last week. However, I have asked if they can fly in some Renoveteur fast, and am waiting to hear how much they will charge freight for this. We should know next week if this can arrive sooner or if we need to wait until the whole order arrives end of the month or so.

We are trying......and yes, is simply sold out at the moment.

At this time, the 3 resources for Saphir products in the US are Franco's, Leffot and LeatherSoul. I am sold out, Leffot is sold out....don't know about Tom at LeatherSoul.

Ron
post #34 of 52
For Saphir Renovateur and the corresponding Saphir cream, I apply with just my fingers. I recall Ron Rider mentioning the use of fingers for application. One benefit is that I'm not wasting so much of this precious stuff on the thrown away rags. Tiny amounts dabbed onto the fingers, makes each jar last twice as long. Also, it's easy to wash Saphir from the skin. When it comes to the wax, I still apply with a cloth. The Saphir Renovateur is wonderful stuff. I leave it to dry overnight before buffing. With the Saphir cream, I wait no longer than 15 minutes. For wax, the single main coat is left overnight, and for each subsequent mirror coat, it's simply as long as possible/practical. Lear
post #35 of 52
me use saphir wax on shell cordovan,
is this proper way?

Saphir alawys best to use!
post #36 of 52
what saphir for alligator?
can keep saphir stored for 6 year?
post #37 of 52
Saphir Renovateur is great, but it SMELLS!!!! Beware...

Find an airy place for application. Even keeping the shoes in your bedroom can be smelly, right after application. I do have a very senstive nose though.
post #38 of 52
wax smell good.
Saphir is best!
post #39 of 52
Does anyone know which wax goes best with Rider's cordovan options? He sells (and I own) the following colors: #6; #8; brandy mahagoni; and dark cognac Thanks.
post #40 of 52
^^^ Ask Ron Rider.
post #41 of 52
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Thanks for the interest, all!

Our Fall stock order for this market (both retail and wholesale) ran into some shipping problems and is now due in around 4 weeks, confirmed from France last week. However, I have asked if they can fly in some Renoveteur fast, and am waiting to hear how much they will charge freight for this. We should know next week if this can arrive sooner or if we need to wait until the whole order arrives end of the month or so.

We are trying......and yes, is simply sold out at the moment.

At this time, the 3 resources for Saphir products in the US are Franco's, Leffot and LeatherSoul. I am sold out, Leffot is sold out....don't know about Tom at LeatherSoul.

Ron

What about Crema Nubina/Alpina?
post #42 of 52
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What has surprised me, is how seldom the water + 30% rubbing alcohol tip is mentioned. It has transformed my mirror, from a shiny sheen, to a hard, glass like sparkle.

Lear

Well I, for one, am disinclined to put alcohol on my shoes. It probably will sit on top of the wax for the most part, but surely some will get into the leather, and alcohol is very effective at drying out pretty much anything.

Separately, I don't like the mirror look. Shiny, sure, but not crazy patent-leather-looking shiny.
post #43 of 52
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Well I, for one, am disinclined to put alcohol on my shoes. It probably will sit on top of the wax for the most part, but surely some will get into the leather, and alcohol is very effective at drying out pretty much anything.

Separately, I don't like the mirror look. Shiny, sure, but not crazy patent-leather-looking shiny.

Almost all shoe polish contains solvents, that is the main reason they smell the way they do, so a little alcohol is not going to cause a problem. In fact Olga Berluti (a very well known bespoke shoe maker) recommends using Champaign when polishing shoes (as part of a ritual). I personally prefer using Sauvignon Blanc.

Certainly, a mirror shine is not for every kind of shoe, or every kind of person, but the purpose of a well glazed shoe shine is not to make it look like patent leather. The purpose of a well glazed shoe shine is to give depth to the look of the leather and show off the nuances of the patina. The better the quality of the leather, the more impressive the results of the process will be.
post #44 of 52
Sure, they may all contain solvents. But not all solvents dry out leather. Alcohol does.
post #45 of 52
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Sure, they may all contain solvents. But not all solvents dry out leather. Alcohol does.

The main solvent in Kiwi shoe polish (and most others) is Stoddard Solvent, also known as White Spirit. This is the main chemical used in most dry cleaning processes, and is also use to clean paint brushes.

Stoddard Solvent is used in dry cleaning because it is very effective in extracting fats and oils, the very thing that leather conditioner is designed to replenish in leather.

The Saphir polish mentioned in this thread actually does not use Stoddard Solvent, but rather Turpentine.

I can't believe that 70% diluted isopropyl alcohol in very small quantities suggested by Lear is more detrimental to leather than the solvents mentioned above.
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