I can't really subscribe to the sentiments in either of the above posts as they are inapposite. It would be one thing, if the SF audience was like Manton's hypothetical foodies, who presumably come from a variety of backgrounds that draw from different experiences but still reach some agreement about what "good" is. However, my sense is that many SF posters have recently taken on clothing as a serious pursuit and much, if not most, of what they know comes from this forum. In such cases, the forum serves as echo chamber in which opinions are self-validated, particularly when they are expressed by those with a little bit of experience and a lot of self-confidence. The truth is, there is lots of room for honest disagreement about clothing, even by those in the know. There are many, myself included, who like a drapey, soft shoulder look. However, there are others very knowledgable about clothing, including Gay Talese for example, who equally despise the look. Too often preference is interpreted on the forum as dogma and those with little experience of their own can't tell the difference.