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(Horace @ April 25 2005,17:53) there appears to be little motivation to "do a job well" not only because as LAG points out, the labor is not valued, but because that the ethos behind the sort of labor that would've been valued was probably crippled (and probably eradicated) by Communism, Cultural Revolution, ensuing aftermath, etc.
Interesting.  I believe the ethos of work (of SOME people) has ALSO been crippled in the USA, UK, Italy, France and other socialism (social help) influenced countries.  Someone who is afraid of loosing his/her job and not having enough to feed and house his/her children may work harder and better than someone that knows that if he/she looses his/her job the worst that could happen is that they end up in unemployment compensation or in welfare and a public housing site. I believe there are people everywhere in the world who value work.  There are also a lot of people in the world that just do their work with the minimal possible effort to receive the paycheck. Lets not generalize. --- Edited to remove the words "It is human nature" from the next to the last parragraph.
And I don't know that a man afraid of losing his job will work "harder" than one who isn't, but there will certainly be a host of other concerns that he'll have that may affect the kind of job he'll do. To generalize: I think it's useful to generalize. I won't bore everyone here any longer, but I think to do otherwise would be anti-intellectual.
post #152 of 161
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(lionel @ April 26 2005,12:38)
LMAO.  Brilliant.
Grafitti defacement activities are better carried out at night - in Black. Farming is primarily a daytime activity, allowing the many beautiful variations of the color brown to be appreciated. As the urbane canyon dwellers of the city seldom enjoy full sunlight, they cannot appreciate the many variatioons of brown, and the golden beauty these lend to items of clothing.
post #153 of 161
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I was one of the people who posted a rather long missive on bourbon, and I'd be happy to have it co-opted into your new thread.  
JBZ: It's done, and I incorporated some of your comments. Also, regarding the work ethic: I'm not sure you could generalize that the American work force has become fundamentally less competitive or hungry. I understand that the standard of living is high enough that being underemployed or unemployed has less dire consequences, and a lack of motivation is certainly true for particular sectors or circumstances (a couple come to mind, but I can't post them), but so many professions are so hypercompetitive or saturated by existing or potential labor that complacency is simply not an option. Also, the overall productivity numbers for the American labor force seem consistently high, and Americans rather consistently lead the pack on number of hours worked (for better or worse).
post #154 of 161
Not to unjack the thread, but, Teacher, have you heard back from Chan?
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Not to unjack the thread, but, Teacher, have you heard back from Chan?
Actually, you've got the wrong guy.
post #156 of 161
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Quote (mack11211 @ April 27 2005,12:06) Not to unjack the thread, but, Teacher, have you heard back from Chan? Actually, you've got the wrong guy.
Teacher, Jester...whatever. I teach too. I think teachers are funny. Jester, have you heard back from Chan?
post #157 of 161
Any word from Chan yet? I am waiting on a suit and am now officially concerned about what it might look like.
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Any word from Chan yet? I am waiting on a suit and am now officially concerned about what it might look like.
I wouldn't be. Did you have any fittings at all? This is the firs titme I have heard of Chan getting something really wrong, and their customer service is impecable. I would be surprised if they do not rectify problems.
post #159 of 161
I met Patrick in DC during his last visit and went back in forth about having them bring the suit back with them for a fitting but let them do the MTM and send it to me. Now I think I will ask them to baste something together before their next visit and then bring it along for a fitting. Will let everyone know how my suit looks when it arrives.
post #160 of 161
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I'm sorry for the long delay in following up. I've been travelling, and also it took a while to exchange several messages with Patrick. He has expressed his apologies for the state of the suit, agrees with my general assessment, and will fix everything. He offered to have me send it back, but I would rather wait until he's back in July because I don't want him to make alterations based solely on a photograph and description, and then end up with yet another iteration of an ill-fitting suit. I am, of course, pleased that he is willing to correct these problems, though I wish it weren't necessary to wait another two months, and I remain concerned. Still, as far as this immediate issue is concerned, I suppose I can't complain.
post #161 of 161
Sorry to hear about your experience with Chan. I saw Kai's suit a while ago and it looked awesome, so don't give up on them yet. And good call on waiting until he visits.
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