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Please note: it's not that I don't respect the work of a tailor, but in Asia, people are not as dedicated in their work than one would find on the Row or in Italy.
What is it about fashion that allows this kind of blatant racist, xenophobic bashing with absolutely no rebuke? You insult gays and people jump down your throat. Call Asians lazy and people completely ignore it as if it's gospel. I haven't seen this kind of racist, xenophobia since I posted pics of my botched suit. I hope for your sake Jester that they make due on that suit, it looks precariously close to the suit I had done at another Asian tailor. At least people haven't accused you of being a mismeasurer.
Damn, I've to wake up to this .... I'm only up to page 4 at this moment, but just need to clarify this, since I was one of the first posters. Â I am Asian; actually to be exact, I am from Hong Kong, even though I have spent most of my adult life elsewhere. Â My experiences with local tailors are no less than Marc's experiences with tailors from the Row or in Napoli, so I think I can speak with authority here. Â Yes, I would reiterate my statement (in essence), that tailors here are not as dedicated in their work than tailors I've known on the Row or in Italy, or even in New York. Â This is a fact that local tailors, regardless of price (those who know me will also know that I judge a product strictly by merit, never price), are incapable of producing product of consistent quality. Â Note: I never, ever, said that they are incapable of producing a quality product; it is the consistency that a consumer needs most. Â And this phenomenon can be seen across many industries here, from local restaurants to local (or China-made) tangible goods to tailors. Â However, in the case of food and tangible goods, consistency is not something to be proud of even in other places, so I don't stress that as much. Â In tailoring, or other form of arts equivalent, the differences are much more apparent. Â I have commissioned numerous pieces from local tailors (it's my little addiction, even though none has produced what I wanted, I still continue commissioning, improving if only a little from the previous work), and also from tailors from the Row and in Italy, and I have to honestly say that my meager experieces elsewhere are more enjoyable than those here, even though I get to go for fittings much more often (three, sometimes four fitting for a suit). Â It is quite coincidentally that this comes up today. Â I was just at a fitting yesterday for some linen shirts and pants (to match my Borrelli white jacket, remember?) and, as usual, found some little irregularities in the shirt. Â It is absolutely ok (hey, I could never play a piece note-perfect either). Â I brought up the topic of consistency with my tailor, and he admitted that he will never be able to produce that kind of consistency found in Row tailors --- I am only talking about simple things, like making collars that are symmetric or sleeves length exact. Â Note: I never, ever said that he was not capable of making a great shirt, it's just that it is not sustainable and consistent. Â Even at Ascot Chang, every shirt comes back with varying level of pattern-matching: sometimes excellent, sometimes not as good. Â See if you can find that in Borrelli or Battistoni. I am not racist, but I am a realist when comes to consuming. Â I have few interests but know what I am doing within those, and I never looked down on anybody, especially me myself being a 100% pure bred Chinese. Â Having lived in different places make me realize that different people are indeed capable of producing different kinds of work; and I think we are each created with different levels of abilities. Â Ask Koji: who are the most diligent students in the world? Â Come on, you can't beat students from China or Russia, who, at an early age, practice 12 hours a day --- now, these are people who can play note-perfect. Â But in the world of sartorial arts, I am sorry to say, but Hong Kong is just not the place. Â You are trying to tell me that Kong Wo (sp?) shoemaker at Princes' building here is comparable to Lobb, or even second-rate makers in Italy? Â But let me tell you, that's the best shoemaker in Hong Kong, and every billionare is a customer there. Â And again, no, their work is not consistent, to an extent that little people like me can see 'defects' or inadequacies in their work with bare eyes. Â Let me get to page 5 ...[/quote] Nat: thanks for post I've seen Wo's work in the Prince's building. Know many that have had shoes made there. Wonder if you might not find time sometime to provide reviews of major HK tailors from the inside out, like A Man and Sams and who ever it is that's been in the Formosa hotel forever (cannot recall name). Thanks. H.