The Weight Loss Muscle Gain Source - Page 5

Bench does seem kind of low. Unless you're using dumbbells?? You may want to work on that for a while.

Yea, my bench has been weak since forever; not sure why either. My shakes are a mix of whey and casein, so there's a slow-release aspect to it too. I eat bread because it's easy and cheap source of carbs. In terms of missing out on macronutrients, which ones exactly? And I've never had an issue shitting, so I assume lack of fibre isn't an issue. RE: liquid diet being non-optimum, have you got any studies that corroborate that? Considering that it all gets turned to liquid in your stomach anyway, I wouldn't have thought that it would matter much. The only thing I was semi-concerned about was that 4 pints of skimmed milk a day might eventually give me diabetes from all the lactose?

You do know that milk has natural carbs in it (lactose)... 4 pints is a lot

you need to stop doing this as soon as possible or you'll have a plethora of disease in your future im not going to attempt to prove this, because i cant. my only reference is dietary evolution. also consider that all the micronutrient status of many elements is undetermined as of yet. which means they are not in your supplements. seriously though, just stop.

Man you are making yourself a candidate for Crohn's disease. Drop some of those shakes and replace with chicken breast, tuna, sardines, mackerel, beef, etc. You're probably in dire need of some veggies too. I'd load up on kale, mustard greens, and cabbage.

^ Surely chicken breast, tuna etc. are ultimately just protein; no different from shakes? Have you got any evidence linking a diet such as mine to Crohn's disease? I'm not trying to be a dick, just hesitant to change it up without reason.

i dont know where he got that from. crohn's is an autoimmune disorder of which the cause is not certain.

but i think a better question is have you got any evidence favoring a diet consisting of supplements, when you actually have nothing you are supplementing on top of?

do you also have any evidence that you are intaking all of your required macronutrients, micronutrients, or trace minerals and elements? Do you even know what those are?

do you have any evidence that your method, which has not been recommended by any nutritionists, has not been practiced by any athlete, is sensible enough to forgo what humans have evolved to eat for hundreds of thousands of years?

^Yeah this can't be optimal. It makes sense I suppose in the context of rapid weight loss but why use it for prolonged periods of time?

Holy crap. Shake only diet? Here's a better idea. All the money spent on supplements can be spent on high quality food sources. Go for this: Nutrition 1. Whole food high in protein and lots of vegetables (spinach, kale, broccoli, etc.) 2. Stay away from sugar and high GI carbs 3. Fish Oil Exercise: 1. Squats 2. Deadlift 3. Benchpress 4. Overhead press 5. Chinups/Pullups x. Maybe some core exercises Watch the fat melt away and muscle mass increase.

Massive amounts of lactose can fuck up your gut and lead to Crohn's. It's how my brother got it.

Double post from the fitness model thread.. I thought I would pop my current routine in here for comment 3 day split probably going to the gym 4 times per week and play 5 a side football one night. Sunday - Chest and Tris 3x8 bench 3 x 8 incline bench (dumbell) 3 x 8 dumbell fly 3 x 8 overhead tri extension 3 x 8 cable extension (pull down) 3 x 8 dips (weighted) Monday - Rest Tuesday - 5 a side football (1 hour) Wenesday Rest Thursday - Shoulders and Legs 3x8 Squats 3x8 Deadlifts 3X8 leg extensions 3x8 shoulder press 3x8 upright row 3x8 front or side raise (dumbell) Friday - Rest Saturday - Back and Bi's 3x8 pulldown 3x8 seated row 3x8 dumbell pullover 3x8 curls (dumbell) 3x8 reverse curls (barbell) super set with 3x8 reverse curls (barbell) 3x8 preacher curl Diet wise I am consuming 2 weight gainer shakes during the day and one post work out protein shake. Plus eating reasonably healthily (avoiding junk food, soft drink and sweets) but given my work situation I find it hard to eat as much as required. Typical day would be 1 bowl museli and banana 2 x chicken baguettes apple sausage roll 2 pieces of toast with peanut butter 300g chicken breast and vegetables / or steak and vegetables 2 pieces of toast with lite cream cheese I am currently 5'11 170lb, not quite as lean as I want to be. I would like to add muscle/gain some size so that I am roughly 180lb fairly lean. What are your thoughts on how I am going about this.