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Sutor Mantalessi (sp?) at STP

post #1 of 14
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Gentlemen: Not sure if this has been mentioned before, but Sierra Trading Post has several Sutor Mantallessi models for good savings--I like this model especially, but can't rationalize getting it (next pair will be C&J Audleys, hopefully): http://www.sierratradingpost.com/xq....uct.htm I also received an email offering me an extra 20% off as a good customer-uh oh. They also have a few To Boot models as well--perhaps soon we'll be seeing Santoni Fatte a Mano. . .
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How does the SM quality stack up against typical English shoes? It's Blake rapid stitched I assume. What about the leather -- my experience is that Italian shoes at this price point use altogether different leather than a typical English shoe (much thinner and less natural looking).
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How does the SM quality stack up against typical English shoes?  It's Blake rapid stitched I assume.  What about the leather -- my experience is that Italian shoes at this price point use altogether different leather than a typical English shoe (much thinner and less natural looking).
JN3, the blake stitch method is inferior to which method?  I keep forgetting this detail.
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How does the SM quality stack up against typical English shoes?  It's Blake rapid stitched I assume.  What about the leather -- my experience is that Italian shoes at this price point use altogether different leather than a typical English shoe (much thinner and less natural looking).
Some of Sutor Mantellassi's shoes are as good as Santoni's Fatte a Mano Norwegian welted shoes.
post #5 of 14
The shoe looks alot like the Edward Green Dover on the 202 last. Nice looking. Still, $300 (w/shipping) doesn't seem like that great a deal -- not enough for me to do it anyway. ('Course I'm a cheapskate.)
post #6 of 14
The various coupons can drive down the total price to about $220 though.
post #7 of 14
is there still a free shipping code/riddle?
post #8 of 14
Use the St. Louis arch one. For some reason the skateboard one doesn't work right now.
post #9 of 14
JN3, can you post the St. Louis arch one? I can't locate it using the search function. Thanks.
post #10 of 14
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How does the SM quality stack up against typical English shoes?  It's Blake rapid stitched I assume.  What about the leather -- my experience is that Italian shoes at this price point use altogether different leather than a typical English shoe (much thinner and less natural looking).
The leather they use is incredibly soft (wth any of the lines). koji
post #11 of 14
On Mantellassi... SM has at least 2 different lines. The lower line has a stiched label, with SM written parallel to the length of the shoe.  Most of the pieces in this category are priced between $400-600 and, to my knowledge, are blake constructed. Example below: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws....me=WDVW The better line, alluded to by T4phage, employs a variety of construction methods (blake, goodyear, and norvegiese) with styling completely influenced by the market/point-of-sale.  I've seen everything from traditional patterns to pseudo-Italian pimp jobs a la Stefano Branchini.  Prices start @ ~$700ish in the U.S. and I've never seen a pair of SM break the $1k mark.  Very competitive with regards to workmanship and leather for the price. The sock liner from the higher-end line features "Sutor Mantellassi" inked in script, and the decoration/finishing on the soles and heel is usually much more refined. See below: http://www.yoox.co.jp/item....SI.html I'm betting that the shoes from STP are from the lower line.  And give a 50:50 shot that the shoes retailing for $700 are from the upper tier. NCT
post #12 of 14
Well said Norcal. There are a few exceptions to the rules he provided - I've seen a pair or two with the sewn-in label that were handmade (but that's probably a thing of the past) and there is at least one pair at the San Francisco Neiman Marcus selling for over $1000. But those are rare exceptions, in general you've got the line nailed. As for quality, the lower-line Blake stitched shoes are nice but nothing special. The higher end shoes have the welt and sole seams sewn by hand, which makes them a pretty good deal at the price point.
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As for quality, the lower-line Blake stitched shoes are nice but nothing special. The higher end shoes have the welt and sole seams sewn by hand, which makes them a pretty good deal at the price point.
The blake-stitched method: that's when the stitches are visible on the sole, correct? My Alden's look this way. Visible stitches on the sole, many of which have broken.
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No, visible stitches on the sole means only that there is no "channel" and covering on the outsole.  Blake stitching means there is no welt, but the sole is stitched directly to the upper (through an insole). Aldens are welted, but not channeled.
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