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post #271 of 283
You've been consistently very helpful to me, Tom. Thanks! It's TNT that I'm after now!
post #272 of 283
Thanks Tom. Dealing with you was easy and wonderful. I love my shoes! Shame the deal isn't still running!
post #273 of 283
Tom, you have the meatiest thighs on the forum!
post #274 of 283
Tom, I find it strange that you decide to post here again, but have refused to answer my email dated August 10, 2009 wherein i informed you I did not receive the correct size I ordered from you. In my view, you owed me at least some obligation to ensure that the shoes you shipped me were what I ordered. In that respect you failed, and you only compounded that error by refusing to respond to my emails. I am now out $730, with shoes that are mis-sized, and I am finding it difficult to sell them since they are not marked at all as to what size they actually are (apparently, not an isolated problem), and I do not want to mislead people as to what they are buying.

You admit to making some profit off this venture, which I think is shameful given what seems to have been a systemic failure to fill orders anywhere near accurately, for reasons that remain unclear. Moreover, since I didn't deal directly with Vass, but instead with you, I am stuck with the shoes you sent me without any recourse from Vass. Do you think that was fair to me? Do you think it is fair you made any profit in this situation?

In the end, I blame myself for dealing with an intermediary rather than directly with Vass. I chalk it up to inexperience, and to a lesson learned, albeit an expensive one. Nevertheless, I do not think you handled yourself well in this situation, and, in my case, you did nothing to try to cure the failure to accurately fill an order. Unless you are prepared to own a problem, and make all attempts to correct an error (including making a full refund for failure to fill orders correctly), I do not think you should offer your services any further to forum members.





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Originally Posted by tiger02 View Post
Hi all, I'll stick my head back in now that all shoes seem to have been delivered. For everyone who didn't get exactly what you were looking for, or for whom I wasn't able to fill orders, I'm sorry that it worked out that way. As a few kind people have pointed out, the shoes were never meant to be much of a professional venture for me, especially having no official relationship with Vass. After the 50 or so orders that I processed, I came out above even, but much less above than you may think. Certainly I still can't afford my own pair of Vass shoes.

I have a friend back in Hungary that is interested in carrying on selling Vass, but after all of the mistakes and difficulties I'm not sure it's such a good idea. To restart selling shoes with anything like professional service would require prices starting around $900-1000 at today's exchange rates (177 HUF:USD 1).

So thanks again to everyone and fuuma, about the warnings you gave me when this all started: yeah, you were right.

Cheers
Tom


PS Sounds like TNT are a bunch of nugs. For anyone that's still having problems, tell TNT that the shoes should have been charged to account number 74635 in Hungary. Fair warning to anyone that tries to use that fraudulently: the account is closed down to new shipments.
post #275 of 283
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Originally Posted by emptym View Post
As you may have seen from a few pics I posted last week, I got the boots. But...

I had a similar experience to vettemike. I just got a bill from TNT express for $260. Crazy. As vettemike said, the agreement with Tom included shipping, as one can see from Tom's first post in this thread, which also mentions TNT as the shipper:

I talked with a friend who's a lawyer, and he said I shouldn't pay the bill or contact TNT, since I never had a contract with them in the first place. He thought it was very strange that a shipping company would deliver goods and then bill customers. He wondered if it was a scam: they bill the shipper and then try to bill the recipient. So I googled "TNT express scam" and got a lot of hits.

Has anyone else gotten a bill from TNT? Is it a scam? Any lawyers here have any thoughts?

I've purchased shoes overseas before that were shipped using different vendors (FedEx, TNT, etc). Although I was not a part of this adventure, I will say you are likely looking at a customs bill (regardless of the accuracy of the $).

When I have received the customs bills in the past (and tried to get out of paying them), the response was usually the same; the debt will be sold to a collections company and the shipper will likely report you to the credit agencies.

So, try to BS your way out of it. Its worth a shot. But, the eventuality of it will likely be; what is you time & effort worth coupled with a nice ding on your credit report. And, if you foresee a need for a loan/credit in the next couple years, you may see the real cost of less than stellar credit.

Just sayin.
post #276 of 283
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Originally Posted by Uncle Jam's Army View Post
Tom, I find it strange that you decide to post here again, but have refused to answer my email dated August 10, 2009 wherein i informed you I did not receive the correct size I ordered from you. In my view, you owed me at least some obligation to ensure that the shoes you shipped me were what I ordered. In that respect you failed, and you only compounded that error by refusing to respond to my emails. I am now out $730, with shoes that are mis-sized, and I am finding it difficult to sell them since they are not marked at all as to what size they actually are (apparently, not an isolated problem), and I do not want to mislead people as to what they are buying.

You admit to making some profit off this venture, which I think is shameful given what seems to have been a systemic failure to fill orders anywhere near accurately, for reasons that remain unclear. Moreover, since I didn't deal directly with Vass, but instead with you, I am stuck with the shoes you sent me without any recourse from Vass. Do you think that was fair to me? Do you think it is fair you made any profit in this situation?

In the end, I blame myself for dealing with an intermediary rather than directly with Vass. I chalk it up to inexperience, and to a lesson learned, albeit an expensive one. Nevertheless, I do not think you handled yourself well in this situation, and, in my case, you did nothing to try to cure the failure to accurately fill an order. Unless you are prepared to own a problem, and make all attempts to correct an error (including making a full refund for failure to fill orders correctly), I do not think you should offer your services any further to forum members.

slam dunk ...how come Kolecho sells heaps of Vass and people are falling over to buy his stuff with never a complaint? QED.
post #277 of 283
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Originally Posted by meister View Post
slam dunk ...how come Kolecho sells heaps of Vass and people are falling over to buy his stuff with never a complaint? QED.

I guess because he sells actual shoes as opposed to MTO bookings.

Still do not understand why people would not just deal with Vass directly.
post #278 of 283
Fyi when i click on the 'vass' link my Norton security software detects and blocks a 'heuristic' virus.
Beware!
post #279 of 283
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Originally Posted by tiger02 View Post
To restart selling shoes with anything like professional service would require prices starting around $900-1000 at today's exchange rates (177 HUF:USD 1).
- I smell BS
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Originally Posted by meister View Post
slam dunk ...how come Kolecho sells heaps of Vass and people are falling over to buy his stuff with never a complaint? QED.
- honesty, consistency & COMMUNICATION sells
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Originally Posted by r_fine View Post
I guess because he sells actual shoes as opposed to MTO bookings.
Still do not understand why people would not just deal with Vass directly.
- Actually, all mine as well as the HKG crew only order MTO from Kolecho
post #280 of 283
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Originally Posted by Phat Guido View Post
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- Actually, all mine as well as the HKG crew only order MTO from Kolecho

Didn't realise that. I would think that only works when you have solid referrals.
post #281 of 283
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Originally Posted by r_fine View Post
Didn't realise that. I would think that only works when you have solid referrals.
- Well, the SF regulars that order from Kolecho here are solid enough to not nickel & dime and understand that good service is hard to come by
- my understanding & experience in dealing with Kolecho is that the communication/advice is clear & the trust is strong. He also tries to keep the orders manageable by giving regulars fore warning & first right of refusal before extending the service to newcomers
- & yes solid referrals.
- IMO we get spoilt on SF with the great discounts & there fore forget that MTO is a very different proposal from picking up the victims of buyers remorse or short term wins
post #282 of 283
Ditto
post #283 of 283
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by Phat Guido View Post
- I smell BS

Dude, I'm in NJ now. You don't smell nearly as much BS as I do...but the bottom line is, if you go into the shop you pay 125.000 HUF for a pair of F last shoes with trees. That's $700. Add in shipping, exchange fees, you get to $800-$850. Add in professional levels of customer service, with the necessary time requirements, you get $900-$1000. That's still bottom dollar for a top notch product. I may be erratic, but I'm not dishonest.
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