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post #16 of 23
2/17/09 at 2:39pm
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Originally Posted by Azure View Post
Get the technichs as1200 or 1210 , I used to play with 3!
Technics 1200 don't have quality sound. A $200 belt drive has better sound. What is your current turntable? I bet you could get a huge improvement through the cartridge alone.
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post #17 of 23
2/17/09 at 10:26pm
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Technics 1200 don't have quality sound. A $200 belt drive has better sound. What is your current turntable? I bet you could get a huge improvement through the cartridge alone.
I´ve been dj and producer of detroit techno and soulful house since I was 16 to 25 , I quit. The quality of the sound comes from the cartridge as you know not from the deck, that only moves the record. I used the ortophone yellows and the stanton most expensive of that age. But I liked the run of the mill stanton 500 to play at clubs as the others crashed the $$ needle all the time. I still have 2 and one to listen to old soul,jazz etc vinyls.
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post #18 of 23
2/17/09 at 11:58pm
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I´ve been dj and producer of detroit techno and soulful house since I was 16 to 25 , I quit.

The quality of the sound comes from the cartridge as you know not from the deck, that only moves the record.

I used the ortophone yellows and the stanton most expensive of that age. But I liked the run of the mill stanton 500 to play at clubs as the others crashed the $$ needle all the time.

I still have 2 and one to listen to old soul,jazz etc vinyls.

This is not correct. The table/plinth, tonearm, and cartridge all impact the sound as does the phono stage quality. Speed stability in the table plus the dampening of resonances in the table and arm all contribute significantly to the quality of sound.
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post #19 of 23
2/18/09 at 1:41am
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The quality of the sound comes from the cartridge as you know not from the deck, that only moves the record.

Not really. The entire turntable, including its support system (eg. the shelf it's sitting on), forms a complicated mechanical filter that depends on the spring rates of the various mechanical interfaces (which form effective springs even if they aren't intended as springs), the damping of those springs, and the masses of the various elements involved. There's a lot of complicated feedback and non-linearity going on in there. This behavior is also greatly affected by the record being played, and where on the record you happen to be.

--Andre
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post #20 of 23
2/18/09 at 2:26am
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The table/plinth, tonearm, and cartridge all impact the sound as does the phono stage quality. Speed stability in the table plus the dampening of resonances in the table and arm all contribute significantly to the quality of sound.
Yes!
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The entire turntable, including its support system (eg. the shelf it's sitting on), forms a complicated mechanical filter that depends on the spring rates of the various mechanical interfaces (which form effective springs even if they aren't intended as springs), the damping of those springs, and the masses of the various elements involved. There's a lot of complicated feedback and non-linearity going on in there. This behavior is also greatly affected by the record being played, and where on the record you happen to be. --Andre
'tis true. When I bought the LP12 years ago, I couldn't afford to buy a top quality cartridge. The Linn dealers told me not to worry, the cartridge is a lesser factor in the sound than the table and the tonearm. I ended up taking the $60 Rega cartridge off my old Thorens, and it sounded quite all right until I could get something fancier.
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post #21 of 23
2/18/09 at 7:39pm
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This is not correct. The table/plinth, tonearm, and cartridge all impact the sound as does the phono stage quality. Speed stability in the table plus the dampening of resonances in the table and arm all contribute significantly to the quality of sound.

Oh yes, you both are right!

I forgot what I learnt about resonances and accustics
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post #22 of 23
2/18/09 at 11:29pm
I had the 'freebie' Basik cart in my LP12 until recently, when I bought a new Denon ML160 which is pretty good. Can't say it made a huge amount of difference to be honest, I just enjoy the music
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post #23 of 23
2/19/09 at 12:42am
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I just enjoy the music

That's the best attitude!
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