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post #31 of 78
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Originally Posted by Connemara View Post
It's the consumer's fault for consuming the HFCS. If people truly thought it was awful, they wouldn't buy it and the market would take care of the rest.

Good thinking. You should run for office.
post #32 of 78
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Originally Posted by Dewey View Post
The low cost of HFCS is a reason that your second claim is true. If Cokes were $2 a can, Americans would consume fewer calories and be less obese.

Calories shouldn't be that cheap or enter the population in such large numbers in that form.

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Originally Posted by Connemara View Post
It's the consumer's fault for consuming the HFCS. If people truly thought it was awful, they wouldn't buy it and the market would take care of the rest.

I think Dewey's point is that prices don't reflect costs. Corn production is highly subsidized (and sugar is subject to quotas, hence the relative price differential). I'd blame agricultural policies that distort prices before blaming consumers for responding to those prices.

Or am I missing some sort of joke?

FWIW, I can def taste the difference between HFCS and sugar. I always thought I hated soda 'til I had it abroad a few years back.
post #33 of 78
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Originally Posted by michaeljkrell View Post
Anyone else make a point not to eat anything with high-fructose corn syrup or corn syrup in general?

I have cut out HFCS. Nice how the commercial doesn't tell you about fatty liver and other problems associated with HFCS. Moderation is hard when the crap is in everything!
post #34 of 78
I still think the #1 reason people are obese in this country is due to soda and other drinks with HFCS. I suppose couch surfing will be in next year's Junior Olympics because fat kids are drinking so many "sport drinks" which contain massive amounts of HFCS. I lost about 14 lbs in 14 days by cutting out HFCS completely a couple years back.
post #35 of 78
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Originally Posted by tiecollector View Post
After drinking a soda, I can actually feel the inflammation in my skin. I read labels and don't buy anything with HFCS in it. However, I do still take a few sips of Mountain Dew a week just to make life worth living. About two sips then throw the rest away. Gotta rebel against rebellion even sometimes.
You may have a psychosomatic disorder.
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Originally Posted by hamish5178 View Post
I have never made pasta sauce or bread that involved sugar.
Do you only eat unleavened bread? Yeast need to eat sugar to do release CO2...
post #36 of 78
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Originally Posted by Xiaogou View Post
I have cut out HFCS. Nice how the commercial doesn't tell you about fatty liver and other problems associated with ridiculoudly high fructose intake. Moderation is hard when the crap is in everything!

Fixed.

By the way, there's a higher percentage of fructose in most fruits than HFCS. Food for thought.
post #37 of 78
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Originally Posted by kaxixi View Post
Or am I missing some sort of joke?
I can't explain Connemara. I was joking when I said he should run for office.
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Originally Posted by kaxixi View Post
FWIW, I can def taste the difference between HFCS and sugar. I always thought I hated soda 'til I had it abroad a few years back.
I can also taste the difference. Not in small quantities but in a soda, for sure. Hard to explain but the sweet taste is thinner and more one-dimensional.
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I still think the #1 reason people are obese in this country is due to soda and other drinks with HFCS. I suppose couch surfing will be in next year's Junior Olympics because fat kids are drinking so many "sport drinks" which contain massive amounts of HFCS. I lost about 14 lbs in 14 days by cutting out HFCS completely a couple years back.
For sure the #1 reason people are obese is they get too many calories.
post #38 of 78
For all you haters, put it to the test. Cut out HFCS for two weeks and see if you feel better. I guarantee you will, and I guarantee for 90% of people, quitting HFCS for 2 weeks will be like quitting crack. If you go about 3 days without HFCS, you will be able to taste it when you bite into a cookie, or even bread. It is something like 10x sweeter than sugar and unless you stop for a while. In fact, it is so sweet, that you may even feel a little bit sickened by it.
post #39 of 78
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Originally Posted by why View Post
Fixed.

By the way, there's a higher percentage of fructose in most fruits than HFCS. Food for thought.

It would be appreciated if you don't edit the content of what I write.

Second, fructose should be left in fruit--

"ridiculoudly high fructose intake" Define ridiculously high. Put a number on it.
post #40 of 78
http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/...tural-says-FDA

HFCS is not natural. Fructose in fruit is.
post #41 of 78
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Originally Posted by tiecollector View Post
If you go about 3 days without HFCS, you will be able to taste it when you bite into a cookie, or even bread. It is something like 10x sweeter than sugar and unless you stop for a while.
No it's not.
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Originally Posted by Xiaogou View Post
It would be appreciated if you don't edit the content of what I write.
I didn't. Welcome to the forum.
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"ridiculoudly high fructose intake" Define ridiculously high. Put a number on it.
It differs among individuals; athletes in training can consume far greater quantities than sedentary elderly women.
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Originally Posted by Xiaogou View Post
http://www.nutraingredients-usa.com/...tural-says-FDA HFCS is not natural. Fructose in fruit is.
I don't think I ever said it was natural. If you think the FDA's arbitrary definitions have any probative value in human metabolism you're really mistaken.
post #42 of 78
This journal article may be of interest. It seems HFCS is just about equivalent in sweetness to sucrose (sugar). http://www.ajcn.org/cgi/content/abst...&RESULTFORMAT=
post #43 of 78
OK, Why. Eat HFCS everyday and let me know how things are when you're 70. Anything that ADM had to lobby to become accepted isn't anything I want to be a part of.
post #44 of 78
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Originally Posted by Xiaogou View Post
OK, Why. Eat HFCS everyday and let me know how things are when you're 70. Anything that ADM had to lobby to become accepted isn't anything I want to be a part of.

Good argument.

I imagine he would be just fine at age 70...unless of course he gets hit by a bus or something.
post #45 of 78
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Originally Posted by mulansauce View Post
Good argument.

I imagine he would be just fine at age 70...unless of course he gets hit by a bus or something.

I am sure you know the results of HFCS on lab rats...
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