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post #1306 of 2153
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
I remember PG from back when he was EGW and Vox was as inaudible as a dog whistle.

So, no.

Thank you for squelching that.


- B
post #1307 of 2153
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I remember PG from back when he was EGW and v\\Vox was as inaudible as a dog whistle.

So, no.

So do I, but the question remains: how much does Vox influence the forum's current perception of PG? Does part of PG's possible 'free pass' (as alluded to earlier by other posters) come from Vox's own enthusiasm for his style?

None of this is meant to denigrate PG's style or taste; I think he's a standout, personally. It's also not meant to criticize Vox for his opinions or standing. The issue is how much dicusssion on the forum gets tilted by one influential poster's point-of-view.
post #1308 of 2153
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Originally Posted by Despos View Post
Caviar does not do it for me.

Let me help you think outside the tin:



Do you need a horn spoon, or are you fine without?

Let me know.



- B
post #1309 of 2153
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
So do I, but the question remains: how much does Vox influence the forum's current perception of PG? Does part of PG's possible 'free pass' (as alluded to earlier by other posters) come from Vox's own enthusiasm for his style?

None of this is meant to denigrate PG's style or taste; I think he's a standout, personally. It's also not meant to criticize Vox for his opinions or standing. The issue is how much dicusssion on the forum gets tilted by one influential poster's point-of-view.

You just want to argue about something.

Why don't you criticize the white flannel pants I posted? Or my new shoes? Or ties? Or today's outfit?

Can't any thread be about me any more?
post #1310 of 2153
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
Thank you for squelching that.

It's not squelched. You are a stylish fellow with a charming personality who participates heavily in the forum. It is inevitable that your opinions will often gain some support simply because they are yours. If you like PG's style, others may follow suit, without taking the time to appreciate it more organically.
post #1311 of 2153
Gratuitous repost.

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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
Let me help you think outside the tin:



Do you need a horn spoon, or are you fine without?

Let me know.



- B
post #1312 of 2153
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Originally Posted by voxsartoria View Post
Let me help you think outside the tin:

http://pages.prodigy.net/johnmariani/031201/MONICA.jpg

Do you need a horn spoon, or are you fine without?

Let me know.



- B


Yeah I'm fine without! If Voxy says caviar is good...who am I to disagree!
post #1313 of 2153
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
Can't any thread be about me any more?

We're talking about lessons from PG now...there's a whole other site devoted to you.


- B
post #1314 of 2153
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Originally Posted by Mark from Plano View Post
I both agree and disagree:

First, I agree that when people come here, in many cases they tend to conform to the societal mean. But generally, when that happens it's because they weren't very stylistically adept to begin with. So, assimilation is really more a way of teaching and learning, which must be done before one can move forward.

However, I think that there are some very notable examples of people who don't fit the cultural homogenization, yet still gain acceptance and appreciation here. On the outer limits you have guys like Fuuma, SoCal, LabelKing, etc. that all have their own style that isn't replicated elsewhere. However (and more subversively) you have guys like PG who comes in and (despite the groupthink) shows that Armani, et al can actually look really good and who helps move peoples' ideas away from the strict buttoned down style that makes the place feel so homogenized. The fact that you don't want to dress like PG means we aren't really like the Borg after all.

I agree with you. Some of my reaction stems from the fact that I've become so familiar with our regulars. Neo remains as striking as ever, but I now know what to expect. Initial novelty can last only so long.

That said, I'd note that PG's Armani is long since gone. It looked good, in a very non-SF way, but now has been replaced by clothing that better fits the SF aesthetic. PG's like a chameleon, adopting the best bits he comes across, and I give him credit for that. But I also think this reflects the transformative effects of the forum. SF spreads certain styles that many of our posters would never see IRL. That's great, but it also can sow a certain uniformity, particularly when newcomers' tastes are being shaped mostly by what's on the forum. Considering the dearth of nice clothing in general these days, I guess I shouldn't find that too surprising.

To be honest, maybe I'm just overdosed on orange trou, white jeans, slim clothes, knit ties, summer pastels, etc. I like all those things, but I'm still starting to chaff.
post #1315 of 2153
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
It's not squelched. You are a stylish fellow with a charming personality who participates heavily in the forum. It is inevitable that your opinions will often gain some support simply because they are yours. If you like PG's style, others may follow suit, without taking the time to appreciate it more organically.

Not to undermine his charm and style, but he also expresses his opinions with the benefit of a lot of history, knowledge and first-hand experience. I think that is often why he is ascribed such credibility. At least that was a big factor for me.
post #1316 of 2153
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Originally Posted by Manton View Post
You just want to argue about something.

Why don't you criticize the white flannel pants I posted? Or my new shoes? Or ties? Or today's outfit?

Can't any thread be about me any more?

Oh come one, before I even started, the thread had already become populated by multi-paragraph analyses of why PG is so well-liked and how the forum's social dynamics affect aesthetic preferences. I'm just pointing out that the appeal of a particular person's style may have something to do with the appeal of particular observers as well as the person himself.
post #1317 of 2153
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Originally Posted by TC (Houston) View Post
Not to undermine his charm and style, but he also expresses his opinions with the benefit of a lot of history, knowledge and first-hand experience. I think that is often why he is ascribed such credibility. At least that was a big factor for me.

Granted. But Vox doesn't need more encouragement .

At any rate, even the most knowledgeable and stylish person shouldn't be able to tell you what you think looks good. AAAC died in part because people came to vest too much in the credibility of particular posters.
post #1318 of 2153
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Originally Posted by mafoofan View Post
So do I, but the question remains: how much does Vox influence the forum's current perception of PG? Does part of PG's possible 'free pass' (as alluded to earlier by other posters) come from Vox's own enthusiasm for his style?

None of this is meant to denigrate PG's style or taste; I think he's a standout, personally. It's also not meant to criticize Vox for his opinions or standing. The issue is how much dicusssion on the forum gets tilted by one influential poster's point-of-view.

I don't buy it. PG's use of color and texture is exceptional, and he has the photo skills and camera to show it off in a way that many don't. I liked those elements of his wardrobe even when I wasn't crazy about his Armani. Further, PG's lifestyles pics have changed WAYW as we know it. I don't think we need to give credit to Vox for PG's accomplishments.

That said, I do think Vox is partly responsible for the meta-discussion of PG lately. But I think we'd see PG groupies even if Vox weren't around.
post #1319 of 2153
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post
To be honest, maybe I'm just overdosed on orange trou, white jeans, slim clothes, knit ties, summer pastels, etc. I like all those things, but I'm still starting to chaff.

There's always my Friday ensembles.

- B
post #1320 of 2153
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Originally Posted by DocHolliday View Post
To be honest, maybe I'm just overdosed on orange trou, white jeans, slim clothes, knit ties, summer pastels, etc. I like all those things, but I'm still starting to chaff.


I have resisted a knit tie to this point, but I now own 6 pairs of white jeans and white pants...that I did not own prior to SF. I always liked the way they looked, but was self-conscious about buying a pair. So, I guess the group think here did push me in that direction.
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