What makes a tie a Grenadine?

im curious as well. i always thought the grenadine tie was akin to like the material of seersucker.

The specific weave pattern of the silk. If you look closely, you'll see that recognizable pattern.

It's actually the cherry flavor associated with the tie more than the specific weave. It's a common mistake. I take no offense.

Go to Sam Hober ties. They will make the tie for you any way you would like.

Rob

Grenadine is not cherry flavored....
Pomagranite.

All of my Roy Rogerses, including the one I had last night, were not really cherry Cokes? They were pomegranate Cokes? Man, my world has been blown. Although, I'd argue it still has a cherry flavor; even though, the syrup is supposed to be made from pomegranate.

Turnbull and Asser stock grenadine ties.
Their ties are usually 3.5 to 3.75 inches wide. You could have them narrowed by a tailor or tiecrafters.com if you wanted them narrower.


Follow this link and you can see the grenadine pattern:

http://store.turnbullandasser.co.uk/Ties/Grenadine

Harvie and Hudson also sells less expensive grenadine ties.
http://www.harvieandhudson.com/product.phtml?id=144

The Grenadine weave is called Gauze in Italian and there are stories of its origin in the Middle East
a long time ago.

There are 2 classic grenadine weaves that are currently woven one is the one that we use and the other is a looser weave.

The type of weave is what makes it a grenadine not how tightly woven it is. Feel free to email me for a swatch if you want to look closely at the weave, which is the best way to understand a grenadine.

You do not want a 7 or 8-fold construction. As for the merits of a 3 or 6-fold construction I will let others make their suggestions as it is mostly a persomal choice. The 6-fold will have a better drape and have an elegant construction which will appeal to gentlemen who like mechanical watches. However, the 3-fold is a clasic tie which is very beautiful. I have several 3-fold grenadines which I often wear.

I would not buy a nice grenadine and have it altered. Those who do alterations tend to do an ok job at a reasonable prce if you are not concerned about small details. If you already have ties which need to be narrowed then that would be when you would want to alter a tie.

The Harvie and Hudson links show what looks to be a beautiful grenadine silk - I cannot tell from the photos much about the construction. The Turnbull and Asser ties will most likely have a nice wool interlining but again I cannot tell from the photos much about the construction so I would probably go with the HH grenadine all things being equal. the silk looks like the same quality.

If you have time we can make a grenadine exactly as you wish but if you are in a hurry the HH tie looks like a good value - but again I cannot tell much about the construction fro the photo.

What I used to call "double breasted neckwear". As dressy a tie as one could find.

Kaplan,


We do not like to make unlined grenadines so the tie would be lined. We can use a light interlining.

Grenadines do have a light feeling and a lot of body - we only suggest four-in-hand knots not Windsors.

If you are not in a hurry then we are perfect for you - smiling.....

When you are ready email me at customerservice@samhober.com and we can discuss length and construction in more detail.

Kaplan,

I have three of David grenadine ties and they are the best ties that go around my neck. He made them exactly to the specifications I sent him. That is the good news. The bad news is that good things take time. And David's take extra time. Six months. But good things come to thise who wait.

I recently bought a couple of grenadines from J.Press during a sale someone announced over at AAAC. They got here in less than a week, but they are not up to the Hober standard. They're a little narrower than I'd like and the way the tie feels in my hand is just not as heavy, solid, or satisfying.