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post #16 of 24
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I had a few friends who were in the diamond business. it seemed like the most mind numbing business you could imagine. you typically carry only one type of diamond in stock - say quarter carrot of a certain clarity, cut and color, and retailors know to come to you for that particular type of stone. you have millions in inventory with a tight margin, because it is a comodity, and it is a very easily stolen product, so you have to constantly count your stock to verify nothing has been stolen. so basically you are sitting in your room counting little stones that are all identical over and over again.
Literally, bean counters. Artificially expensive and inedible beans, but beans nonetheless.
post #17 of 24
The current best-quality synthetics are essentially indistinguishable from from the real thing -- and they are yellow (called canary in the trade). Run a search at wired.com on yellow diamonds, as there was a major article published about that process. The rarest and most precious diamonds are actaully the red/purple diamonds from the Argyle mine in Australia -- they are auctioned off every few years, and prices reportedly exceed 1.0 Million USD/carat. Typically they are purchased by rare stone collectors, often Japanese (rather than Hollywood types). As far as flaws go, synthetics typically do not have (the same, at any rate) flaws as synthetics. Synthetics are created in stainless steel pressure vessels, and the processes are often quite different from how they are grown in nature -- IIRC the yellow diamonds are produced by vapor deposition, which is not how current theory predicts natural growth. The same for other gems -- the processes involve all manner of chemical dopants and fluxes to coax the material to properly behave. The flaws in natural diamond are so varied that it is challenging to fake them -- perhaps mirroring the inclusion profile of a certain source would be doable over time, however. Now is probably the most worried De Beers has been in some time, as a host of new competitors are opening up -- the Australians have viable private concers, Siberian diamonds are coming into their own, various non-DeBeers Algerian and Namibian sources are starting up, for that matter, there is even the Ekata mine in Canada of all places. There's also an Israeli businessman making strong inroads at all facets of the supply chain from minng to market (whereas De Beers is only in rough supply), So it's now really possible to buy a non-DeBeers diamond if you want to. Lastly, "Diamonds are forever." Nice little ditty DeBeers cooked up in the '30's or so. Actually a chemist would tell you that diamonds are not all that stable, in fact, they are termed 'metastable.' Basically, thery were created under extreme conditions and prefer them. Here where we are, they are not as happy and are constantly degrading (obviously at a piddling rate). Eeesh this got long... Regards, Huntsman Edited to remove a stupid comment
post #18 of 24
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Lastly,  "Diamonds are forever." Nice little ditty DeBeers cooked up in the '30's or so. Actually a chemist would tell you that diamonds are not all that stable, in fact, they are termed 'metastable.' Basically, thery were created under extreme conditions and prefer them. Here where we are, they are not as happy and are constantly degrading (obviously at a piddling rate).
It's actually "A Diamond Is Forever" and was cooked up by J Walter Thompson. The campaign has been extraordinarily successful - as evidenced by the fact that we're having this conversation at all. Much of it is changing cultural norms to sell more diamonds: women demand diamond engagement rings for a reason. You'll soon see a similar demand for engagements or when she has a baby.
post #19 of 24
I don't particularly like diamonds on their own. I prefer emeralds and rubies, pearls. Diamonds may be used as an accent stone, thank you. PS: I don't like red roses either.
post #20 of 24
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It's actually "A Diamond Is Forever" and was cooked up by J Walter Thompson.
Indeed. Blame Bond. Regards, Huntsman
post #21 of 24
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I don't particularly like diamonds on their own.  I prefer emeralds and rubies, pearls.  Diamonds may be used as an accent stone, thank you.   PS: I don't like red roses either.
damn, I guess I will have to go back to the store
post #22 of 24
I think the idea of giving a reverse dowry to a women is a little foolish. If you want a woman to love you, consider this formula: Love value of gift=(what you paid+extrinsic value of gift)-intrinsic value of gift That's MINUS the intrinsic value. This is why flowers and jewelry are good; they have little intrinsic value. If there were no women in the world, we would grind up all the diamonds and use them to coat saw blades and we would melt the gold to make interconnects for RAM chips. And why grow flowers when you could have a nice shrubbery? Therefore, if you want a women to stop loving you, give her a gift with a high intrinsic value. I recommend a riding lawn mower.
post #23 of 24
yep, that'll work.
post #24 of 24
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Thank you to everyone for their opinions here. Decided to go with the advice that a simple diamond ring was far too risky, although I did want to buy a ring as she's said in passing that she'd like one. Purchased from eBay (seller wattywinker), which admittedly seemed a bit risky. When it arrived I wasn't overly impressed by the workmanship, but a local appraiser gave it the thumbs up (real gold, natural gemstones, insurance valuation around 4x the price I paid). I will need to purchase a new presentation box though, as the supplied one looks like something that came out of a gumball machine. It's a very modern style, white gold split band with three emeralds accented by two small accent diamonds in the middle. Poorly lit image here. Now to find the perfect moment to present it...
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