which is a better city: Chicago or New York?

Originally Posted by Cavalier

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Spiaggia, Tru, Everest-- that level of place is what most people in Chicago consider high end dining (granted there are some nicer places). NY has a lot more higher end places that cost 2 or 3X a Spiaggia bill and up. Alinea's is great, but there's obviously a higher end in NYC.

Originally Posted by upstarter

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I lived in Chicago (Wicker Park) for a summer 2 years ago and commuted to the burbs. Being from LA:

2) Food was dissapointing. It seemed like all there was to eat was hot dogs, italian beef sandwiches, and pizza. Rinse and repeat. If you wanted to find something else worth forking money over for, you had to search really hard.


Both wrong, and spoken by people whose opinions on food are worth less than dog ****.

What exactly is your definition of "high end"? I am not quite sure how much more high end one can get than Alinea. If you're refering to prices, then I still think it's an idiotic statement. The level of cuisine is extremely good, and in every thinking circle of food in the world, Chicago is at the forefront of what is THE forefront in the world of food, if you're talking about American cities. Kindly take a look at the top 3 restaurants of the perrier list. As far as innovation, Alinea is as good as just about anything you'll find, and I'm saying that as a big lover of Heston Blumenthal and an admirer of Adria.

I also think Spiaggia is comparable to any Italian place in the united states. You also have Charlie Trotter here who has consistently been named the best American chef, and his restaurant as the best in the USA. Alinea has also been talked about in the same way.

Anyone who has trouble finding good food in Chicago is a moron and doesn't deserve the right to an opinion.

Originally Posted by JayJay

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I don't find Chicago to be cheaper, either. Sales tax alone, especially in the Michigan Avenue area, runs higher than NYC.

Yes, I can tell you that the taxes can be incredible... however, the building that I live in on Mich. accross near the big steel blob would cost a great deal more in NYC, but it's still expensive living.

Originally Posted by SField

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Yes, I can tell you that the taxes can be incredible... however, the building that I live in on Mich. accross near the big steel blob would cost a great deal more in NYC, but it's still expensive living.
so let me get this straight you're a tourist living in the gold coast who acts like you're daley?? keep telling everyone how chicago is the best city in the whole wide world and may be someone will start believing! I bet you want the olympics too!

Originally Posted by Cavalier

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so let me get this straight you're a tourist living in the gold coast who acts like you're daley?? keep telling everyone how chicago is the best city in the whole wide world and may be someone will start believing!

I bet you want the olympics too!

A) I'm not a tourist, I own a place in Chicago.
B) I don't think Chicago is the best city in the world. I am simply stating that you are unqualified to talk about Chicago's food, and basically the entire topic for that matter. I don't think that I've said anything else about Chicago, just the food.
C) I have probably lived in NYC longer than you have.
D) I honestly don't think this city is equipped to handle the olympics, and I probably won't be living here in 2016.
E) You're a moron.

Originally Posted by SField

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E) You're a moron.
SField, you may want to revisit your (how to call it...) distinctive prose style in light of the new mod guidelines for behavior on the forum. I'm not sure starting half your posts calling people idiots and ending the other half calling them morons is going to work.

http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=103309

I don't make 100k and though i don't have kids, I live a very satisfying lifestyle.
Lived in Chicago for three years and really enjoyed it. Lived in NYC for fifteen and prefer it to Chicago.

I will say that if NYC was like this back in '94, i wouldn't have moved here.

Originally Posted by SField

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A) I'm not a tourist, I own a place in Chicago.
You and your Gold Coast neighbors are tourist chumps!!

I prefer NYC.

Originally Posted by Cavalier

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You and your Gold Coast neighbors are tourist chumps!!

Pathetic.

Originally Posted by gdl203

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SField, you may want to revisit your (how to call it...) distinctive prose style in light of the new mod guidelines for behavior on the forum. I'm not sure starting half your posts calling people idiots and ending the other half calling them morons is going to work.

http://www.styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=103309

You gonna taddle tale?

Originally Posted by JSC4President

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In terms of academia (i am super geek boy, so this $hit concerns me)... i tend to think University of Chicago is better than Columbia and NYU. Although Columbia and UofC are pretty close. ok.. just my 2 cents. More Nobel Prizes in Economics out of Univ Chicago than anywhere else.

Yes--see the mess they got us into

NYC for academics and better culinary diversity.

Originally Posted by Xiaogou

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NYC for academics and better culinary diversity.

Wouldn't Northwestern and UChicago be superior to NYU and Columbia?

There is something else I've noticed. Every time I went out in New York, the girls that were in their mid to late 20s looked about 10 years older. I started looking around at women in general, and it seemed to hold true for all of them. I'm not sure if it is pollution, or stress, or something else, but damn, New York seems to really prematurely age women.

Originally Posted by SField

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You gonna taddle tale?
No, why would I do that? I prefer to let you know directly, as I doubt you had seen Brian's post.

EDIT: oops, just saw that you've been timed out for either calling him a moron or for calling me a whiny *****, both being completely unnecessary. Conversation to resume in a couple days (assuming you can control your ITG compulsions)

Originally Posted by Xiaogou

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NYC for academics and better culinary diversity.

seriously, does anybody who has spent serious time in both believe that nyc is better for culinary diversity? I mean, that his the myth, but I don't believe it is true. nyc has better chinese, chicago better vietnamese, mexican, indian and italian. nyc better bagels, chicago better german. nyc better ny style pizza, chicago better chicago style pizza.