Several things... 1. How in the hell can you guys do 4 pages in the time it takes me to take the girls out for Sushi? 2. Design-wise: There are some things we can do and some things we can't do. Before we get too far down that path I'd offer this suggestion: Let Jill and I toy with a few things FIRST, post them and then take some suggestions. There are some designs we have that are not in our collection at present but where we have already paid for the setup that might work with color modification. If we go with something entirely new it is fine - but adds to the costs. So.. let us take a first pass, poll on it and see how close we are to a consensus. Obviously we will not please everyone completely but hopefully we will piss off as few people as possible (why I was leery in the first place). Suggestions at that point are fine but as Alex pointed out while anything is possible, not everything is practical. 3. We won't do it in 17 widths. We'll go standard width of between 3.5 and 3.75. We don't do streetwear, we will make sure you are not embarassed to wear it. We can't make 20 different ones here and I hope everyone understands that. FWIW it will not be exactly the way I'd do it for myself. 4. We'll go with a medium finish - not crusty dry, not the slick gum finish with the most lustre. Objective - go with something that is acceptable to as many people as possible. Other items in no particular order: A. No fighting, bitching, moaning or arguing allowed. Anyone caught not having fun with this and enjoying it will be severely beaten. C'mon guys - we can all make this fun or we can kill a good idea. Deal? B. Design software we use is proprietary C. I am not looking for credit or thanks - simply hoping not to get shat upon for doing this. When the original idea came up we got slammed in absentia. Let's not do that, OK?